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   Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 22:50:53 JST Miakoda

   I hope Luigi walks

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 22:55:33 JST Miakoda

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     Elites are mad Luigi defeated one of their mini bosses. 🤣

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 23:00:31 JST Miakoda

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     I dunno... If I used a 3D printed gun for murder... it's filiment, isn't it? Fucking melt it, dude!

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 23:54:56 JST Miakoda

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     If society doesn't want vigilante justice, then official justice needs to function and society should have thought about that before deciding a convicted felon who is constitutionally disqualified was "elected" president. Also, there needs to stop being exceptions to murder laws when the murder results in billions in profits.

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     Joe (regguy@mastodon.world)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 23:54:58 JST Joe

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     @fishidwardrobe No, it's not the trolley problem. As a society we cannot make vigilante justice legitimate. And more people voted the MAGA GOP into power, they are the cause of CEOs like this. People need to vote out those who create these problems.@hellomiakoda

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     Fish Id Wardrobe (fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 23:54:59 JST Fish Id Wardrobe

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     @RegGuy @hellomiakoda yes, but so did that guy he killed, for the same reason, and that was never going to happen. So it's — well, it's the trolley problem, actually.

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     Joe (regguy@mastodon.world)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 23:55:00 JST Joe

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     @hellomiakoda Why? If he killed someone doesn't he deserve to receive some punishment?

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 23:56:22 JST Miakoda

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     Murder to protect more innocent people from being killed is justified.

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     Fish Id Wardrobe (fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Dec-2024 23:56:23 JST Fish Id Wardrobe

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     @RegGuy @hellomiakoda I'm not sure you understand what I mean by the trolley problem: that both choices are wrong, that there are no "good" choices.

     Voting has so far failed to fix the US health system for how many years now? Twenty? Forty? I don't think there is a "good" choice to fix this. Which, again, does not make murder right.

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 02:10:23 JST Miakoda

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     If I tried to stab your family to death (not a threat, I do not want to do this and I'm not even angry at you. It's just a hypothetical example), would it be wrong for you to kill me to stop me?

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     Joe (regguy@mastodon.world)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 02:10:24 JST Joe

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     @hellomiakoda Then it has to not be murder. I disagree, I don't want to live in a world where we murder people like this.@fishidwardrobe

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 03:35:55 JST Miakoda

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     @fishidwardrobe @RegGuy If I'm on the secondary track, and all the people on the main track are innocent, pull the fucking lever!

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     Fish Id Wardrobe (fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 03:35:56 JST Fish Id Wardrobe

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     @RegGuy @hellomiakoda So if I understand you correctly, you're okay with murder, just not *direct* murder.

     To my way of thinking this *is* the trolley problem and you have decided not to pull the lever.

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     Joe (regguy@mastodon.world)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 03:35:58 JST Joe

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     @fishidwardrobe I understand the classic trolley problem, which way to switch? Murder is wrong, period. Healthcare is f'd up, but isn't direct murder. We have to draw a line somewhere. @hellomiakoda

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 06:54:13 JST Miakoda

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     @fishidwardrobe @RegGuy My goal is to leave as much good as possible. The choice isn't that hard to me. If I can't save everyone, save as many as possible*

     *assumes available info puts all potential victims on similar moral grounds. If, I dunno, one of the tracks is people covered in Nazi shit, they're not the ones I'm saving.

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     Fish Id Wardrobe (fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 06:54:15 JST Fish Id Wardrobe

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     @hellomiakoda @RegGuy well, I agree. But that's still not a "good" act. Neither is leaving the lever alone.
     So I get it if people don't want to. It's a hard choice.

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 08:04:28 JST Miakoda

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     I feel confident with my moral bar being "people who don't deliberately harm innocent beings (outside of food) are okay and should be protected from harm when possible"

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     Fish Id Wardrobe (fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 08:04:29 JST Fish Id Wardrobe

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     @hellomiakoda @RegGuy my take is usually the same — broadly Utilitarian. It's not perfect but it tends to point in the least bad direction.

     (Of course it can also lead to some horrible moral cul-de-sacs. Have you read Ursula le Guin's _The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas_? ::shudder::)