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I always think it's funny when pro aborts think pro lifers support rape
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@realcaseyrollins i like to point out to people that the debate is literally about how many years you have to be alive to qualify for human rights. i also then ask them to clarify that your human rights are dependent on who the father is.
they usually get very angry because both of these are true statements but you don't sound like a hero answering them
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@realcaseyrollins to some extent i don't really care what their answers to those questions are. the greeks you weren't legally a person until you were 8 years old.
but people don't wanna answer them cause it fucks up the hero complex
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@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins quinn be like:
You get to do whatever you want
BUT
you don't ever get to feel morally superior doing so
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@cine @realcaseyrollins
:cirno_think: always know what you are
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@teratology @realcaseyrollins well that certainly doesn't answer either question.
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@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins
No uterus, no opinion. Which is more than half of this network. 🧿
This wouldn't be a political talking point or debate if men had to risk their lives carrying a child to term. So in the end this debate is really about not giving a fuck whether or not the woman dies, since every single pregnancy puts you at risk of death.
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@teratology @realcaseyrollins probably because that's where the whole point of contention is?
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@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins the point is the focus isn't on the woman, but a hypothetical child.
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@teratology @realcaseyrollins the entire axes of argument are basically those two questions: how much time before you have human rights, and are they contingent on the father.
the christian position is basically <0 seconds, no>, the neoliberal position seems to be <random(), yes>. for some reason i get a lot of rizz from neoliberals refusing to just answer the fucking question though.
(my own opinion is unusual but boring, not that anyone asked.)