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   javi@goblin.band's status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 03:27:17 JST javi

   If you don't in the WordPress ecosystem, you may not understand how HUGE this post is
   
   
   
   https://joost.blog/wordpress-leadership/
   
   
   
   Joost is probably the second biggest figure in the entire WP ecosystem, only after Matt M himself. He is the biggest voice from the "Enterprise WordPress" world.
   
   This is not anymore open source contributors complaining about governance. This is the Business WordPress demanding a leadership change and suggesting it either happens or a hard fork, backed by big business, is on the way.

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     Darnell Clayton :verified: (darnell@one.darnell.one)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 22:18:59 JST Darnell Clayton :verified:

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     • Joost de Valk
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     @javi I wonder if @joost will do a “soft” fork instead‽ Basically it would reduce friction with the #WordPress community & they could introduce ideas that were desired albeit ignored by the community.

     But yeah, with this lawsuit going on, I do not see @WordPress changing their board anytime soon.

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     Darnell Clayton :verified: (darnell@one.darnell.one)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 01:31:12 JST Darnell Clayton :verified:

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     @javi Well, WordPress itself is a fork of B2, & they surpassed them. Something similar could happen here as well.

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     javi@goblin.band's status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 01:31:13 JST javi

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     • Darnell Clayton :verified:

     Also, in the comments of the post MM himself tells Joost he is free to do it, but be better calls it something else. The moment the brand changes, if some of the big hosting companies decide to go with the new brand (and after WPE they have all the incentives), WordPress can find itself being the smaller part of the fork soon.

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     Darnell Clayton :verified: (darnell@one.darnell.one)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 01:38:41 JST Darnell Clayton :verified:

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     • photomatt
     • Joost de Valk

     @javi Yeah, after reading through the comments on @joost post, it is clear that @photomatt is encouraging a fork (for better or worse).

     A fork might be a good idea. It could also end the silly legal drama between WP Engine & @wordpressdotcom, as the former will probably pivot towards using the fork.

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     javi@goblin.band's status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 01:38:43 JST javi

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     • Darnell Clayton :verified:

     My guess is that would be his first choice. But with Matt being against it, I don't see it being a feasible option: WordPress core is full of hardcoded references to the centralized repo, it's hard to change that without breaking compatibility.

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     Seth :rebel: :fist_raised: ⁂ (seth@socl.bz)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 05:14:45 JST Seth :rebel: :fist_raised: ⁂

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     • dusoft

     @javi @dusoft Yea, this is huge