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   Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Dec-2024 18:45:06 JST Yuchen Pei
   https://x.com/janeclarejones/status/1868808714930864484
   
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   TRAs: Let’s use the cultural consensus that it’s not cool to be disgusted by people and that was really harmful to gay people to force team the gay rights movement and take over the whole of civil society. Then, if anyone questions us about trying to erase sex in law and making everyone pretend that men are actually women we can just call them bigots. Neat trick eh. They won’t see that coming.
   
   Materialist GCs: Yeah, you’re right that being disgusted by people isn’t cool. But we have solid material reasons why erasing sex in law and public policy is a social harm that is nothing to do with being disgusted.
   
   TRAs: No you’re bigots bigots bigots and nazis.
   
   Materialist GCs: No we’re not *write a shit ton of articles and reports and assemble a load of data about why erasing sex in law and essentialising gender is a material social harm.*
   
   Ultras: Troons are all disgusting perverts and those head girl bitches aren’t any where near disgusted enough and that’s because they are traitors and that’s because they are keeping pet troons and fucking AGPs.
   
   Materialist GCs: Yeah this is pretty unhelpful because you kind of do look like bigots now and we’ve just spent a long time making argument to explain why we’re not and we have valid and legitimate concerns.
   
   Ultras: Shut up you stupid useless wordy fucking handmaidens you think men are women and salivated over Troons and that’s why we’re in this whole mess to begin with.
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     Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Dec-2024 18:45:10 JST Yuchen Pei

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     Materialist GCs: Yeah, that’s not quite how that happened. And you’re not really convincing me that there isn’t a disgust issue here . We’re quite worried about this because we think the argument that it’s wrong to interfere with other people’s lives just because they grim you out that we learned as a society from homophobia is basically right. You need to make arguments about why something is a harm and the fact that people are disgusted is kind of neither here nor there.
     
     And it will make a lot of people think we are motivated by disgust and that will make a lot of people think you are bigots and will make people think the TRAs are right and could jeopardise all the work we’ve done to convince people we’re not bigots
     
     Ultras: OMG did you compare homophobia and being disgusted by Troons you fucking bitch.
     
     Materialist GCs:
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     Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Dec-2024 05:36:36 JST Yuchen Pei

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     • mittimithai
     @mittimithai
     If ultras are driven by personal disgust and especially use this disgust as a basis for policies then she's got a good point here
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Dec-2024 05:36:37 JST mittimithai

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     JCJ don't like ultras it seems....
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     Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Dec-2024 05:43:56 JST Yuchen Pei

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     • mittimithai
     @mittimithai
     I forgot the word disgust itself is ambiguous
     
     https://x.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1869079245630189678