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   kurtseifried (he/him) (kurtseifried@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 02:11:08 JST kurtseifried (he/him)

   • Charlie Stross

   @cstross so I just read this: https://www.scotland.police.uk/what-s-happening/news/2023/october/homicides-in-scotland-2022-23/ tldr Scotland has a 100% clearance rate for homicides since 2013 and is also closing some cold cases. You live there, can you comment on this? I’m especially curious about the perception of crime in light of this 100% clearance rate.

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     Charlie Stross (cstross@wandering.shop)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 02:11:07 JST Charlie Stross

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     @kurtseifried For decades, it's been a matter of policing policy throughout the UK to throw money-no-object levels of resourcing at every murder case—a couple of decades ago the budget averaged a couple of million per case—and the result was a very high clean-up rate compared to the USA's dismal habit of ignoring murders of anyone who wasn't considered important or respectable.

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     Charlie Stross (cstross@wandering.shop)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 19:40:35 JST Charlie Stross

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     • ROLLER

     @roller @kurtseifried I suspect Canada's homicide rate is elevated from developed-world baseline by proximity to the USA, which is a deranged violent outlier with sanity eroded by guns and a constant barrage of pro-violence propaganda.

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     kurtseifried (he/him) (kurtseifried@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 19:40:37 JST kurtseifried (he/him)

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     • Charlie Stross
     • ROLLER

     @roller @cstross yeah but that’s far better than for example, here in Canada, where we have a good chunk of completely unsolved murders with no idea who did it, especially when the murder is of vulnerable people like the homeless or sex workers. I guess as an North American I was brought up that it’s just normal that you have some amount of murder for which you have a dead body and no idea who did it.

     As it turns out, it’s possible to have a different option, one that looks a bit better.

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     ROLLER (roller@twit.social)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 19:40:37 JST ROLLER

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     • Charlie Stross

     @kurtseifried @cstross homicide rates aren't so different between the two countries, Canada is twice Scotland from what I can see.
     I can't see any particular mention of homicides in the Scottish policing policy. Doesn't mean the other commentor isn't right though.
     I suspect I could go into reasons why they might be different (smaller country, less guns, less transient population etc) but I have reached the limit of my ignorance. I will be interested to see other views.

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     ROLLER (roller@twit.social)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 19:40:38 JST ROLLER

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     • Charlie Stross

     @kurtseifried @cstross I live in Scotland and I wasn't even aware of this. Anecodotally I have experienced murder as being rare, so it runs true. I read the background and it says the murders were solved. To quote:
     "The distinction between “solved” and “unsolved” homicide cases is where an accused individual is attached to it (solved) and where an accused individual has not been identified (unsolved)."
     From what I can see, they know who did it, not that they are necessarily behind bars.