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Hart of the Wud (praxeology@post.lurk.org)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 02:23:28 JST Hart of the Wud

Maybe we should stop calling them *Notifications* and instead refer to *Interruptions*.
"Working on some stuff so I've turned off interruptions for a while."
"Right on."

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  Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 20-Dec-2024 18:12:31 JST Rich Felker
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  @praxeology Or just get rid of them so we don't need a word for them except in the history books.
  
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  R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:15 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
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  I guess? I don't think they care so much about restricting the usage of iOS to specific hardware (like an old fashioned hardware copy protection dongle) as they do restricting what *you* do with the hardware and software so that you're beholden to their "ecosystem."
  admiral_ackbar_its_a_trap.mp4
  
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  clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:18 JST clacke
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  @RL_Dane An iPhone is a hardware dongle for an iOS license.
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  R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:19 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
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  ... 2/4
  Their business model isn't straight-up hardware. Delta, the faucet company? THAT is hardware. Intel? Hardware. AMD? Hardware. NVIDIA? Hardware.
  #Apple though? Yes, they make their money FROM hardware... but they do not make their money BECAUSE of hardware. They make their money because of vendor lock-in, reputation, and their vaunted ecosystem.
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  R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:19 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
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  ... 3/4
  The only reason I would buy an iPhone would be... because the hardware is great? Heck no. The hardware is trivial to replace/repoduce. Samsung makes far better hardware, IMHO, and I've never had a Samsung phone. It's the interplay between hardware, software, ecosystem, luxury brand status, and vendor lock-in.
  People don't buy iPhones because they're great phones. They're GOOD, but pretty grossly overpriced phones.
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  R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:19 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
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  ... 4/4
  PEOPLE BUY iPHONES SO THAT THEY CAN FACETIME THEIR MOM.
  People buy iPhones so they can have freaking blue-bubble status in chats.
  People buy iPhones not because they are good, but because they are iPhones.
  That is simply not a hardware company. It's a luxury brand. It's a corporate cult. It's... something else, man. :/
  
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  R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:20 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
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  Oh, I do get it. Hardware is the gross majority of their revenue. I don't even have to check ChatGPT's work on that one, even though I don't generally trust it to be factually accurate any more than I could lob a 747 across a football field.
  But (and this is a tenuous argument to make, so bear with me)... just because their income is from hardware doesn't necessarily make them a hardware company.
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  R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:21 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
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  Apple's business model is not hardware anymore. It hasn't been in some time.
  Precisely what it IS is rather difficult to nail down, though. It's not strictly hardware, It's not software, it's kind of an ecosystem, and it's kind of a cult.
  
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  Mastokarl 🇺🇦 (mastokarl@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:21 JST Mastokarl 🇺🇦
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  @RL_Dane @sam @sean @praxeology if ChatGPT did its web search right and I did the math right then 75% of apple‘s revenue is still hardware with the iPhone taking 49%. ads are just 1%
  (Nb this is not so important to me that I checked ChatGPT‘s web search result, might be wrong)
  
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  R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:22 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
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  Even Apple is an ad company.
  I've been off of iOS for four years now, and I was utterly shocked to see ads in the iOS App Store on a family member's phone a year or two ago.
  Pretty shameless!
  
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  Mastokarl 🇺🇦 (mastokarl@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:22 JST Mastokarl 🇺🇦
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  @RL_Dane @sam @sean @praxeology well, but google‘s business model is ads, while apple primarily sells you hardware. Quite a difference.
  Only very very few apps may send me notifications, and I strictly disable notifications for every app who sends me shit to remind me of their existence. And often the app as well.
  
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  R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:24 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
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  I kinda liked how notifications worked in classic iOS: A little window would pop up in front of everything, and you could acknowledge or dismiss it, and then it was gone forever.
  They really were interruptions, and you didn't tend to enable them for too many apps.
  Now the notification center is just another horrid inbox to go through. XD
  
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  Sam (sam@fed.eitilt.life)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 21:37:24 JST Sam
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  This so much! There are certainly things I need to get notified about. Do I have to be notified about it right then? (In the case of "drink some water so you don't dehydrate yourself", unfortunately, yes, I do. In the case of "this person liked your post", what am I going to do about that in the next fifteen seconds that I couldn't do in several hours?) Even if I do need the immediacy, will I ever have any reason to go back to it after seeing and dismissing it?
  
  I guess that's what happens when one of our primary computer providers is an ad business. Who's up for overthrowing Google? 🙃
  
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