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   Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 20:19:39 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

   Listen there are four important qualities to me in a laptop, going forward:
   - I can run Guix on it, I will accept having to use nonguix to do so (though I would like to not have to)
   - I can run Blender on it with FOSS GPU drivers
   - I can install a lot of ram in it for when I foolishly decide to recompile a bunch of packages while needing to get work done
   - I can repair the damned thing

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 20:23:22 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • lynn

     @lynn last time I got an AMD laptop it couldn't run Blender

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     lynn (lynn@a.bloodyno.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 20:23:25 JST lynn

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     @cwebber sounds a lot like amd framework
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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 20:24:04 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • lynn

     @lynn not correctly, anyway

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 20:53:20 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Mans R

     @mansr really? why

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     Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 20:53:21 JST Mans R

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     @cwebber Most of those requirements point towards something that isn't a laptop.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 00:36:28 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Aurora

     @mansr @rallias I bought an off the shelf Dell laptop from Best Buy once, one of those cheap ones they specifically make for Best Buy, and upgraded the ram in it

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     Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 00:36:41 JST Mans R

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     • Aurora

     @rallias @cwebber It is obviously possible to only buy the rare laptops that can be upgraded, and you've obviously done that. Stop pretending your choices are representative of the market at large.

     Also, 64 GB isn't exactly a lot these days.

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     Aurora (rallias@hax.social)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 00:36:43 JST Aurora

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     • Mans R

     @mansr @cwebber I've had more laptops that I can install RAM on than laptops I cannot. I'm currently rocking two laptops, one started with 4 and is rocking 32, one started with 12 and is rocking 64. Only laptop I've ever personally used that s doesn't have RAM upgrade ability is my work laptops, one Lenovo and one Mac.

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     Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 00:36:54 JST Mans R

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     @cwebber Because laptops don't usually let you install RAM at all beyond what they are manufactured with, let alone lots of it. Repairing is also mostly out of the question. A notable exception on both counts is the Framework laptops, at least on paper. Maybe one of them fits your needs.