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   screwlisp (screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 10:27:34 JST screwlisp

   • Charles U. Farley
   • Vertigo #$FF
   • Hayley
   • AN/CRM-114

   @vertigo @freakazoid
   Yeah, I was also remembering seeing this essay being eminently criticizable. In my reread I was shocked to realise that the example given in this essay wasn't an abstract thought, but was literally refering to Waters' PhD in the 70s (and eventual AIM-1082), being the 80% of Haskell written in lisp.
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     Ramin Honary (ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 11:07:08 JST Ramin Honary

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     • Charles U. Farley
     • Vertigo #$FF
     • Hayley
     • AN/CRM-114

     I kind of want to argue that the being pretty nuts part is fundamental and somewhat excludes being a business-as-usual-“business-logic”.

     @screwtape Someone really ought to do a survey, because I suspect that there is a higher-than-baseline percentage of people in the Lisp communities who are Autistic, ADHD, and/or Trans/Queer people, and that could serve as another bit of evidence to your “being pretty pretty nuts.”

     I like to think that people in the Autism/ADHD demographic have a tendency to gravitate toward simplicity and mathematical beauty, and this is part of the reason why they tend to gravitate toward Lisp.

     “Making Scheme object-oriented is a sophomore homework assignment. On the other hand, adding object orientation to C requires the programming chops of Bjarne Stroustrup.” — Rudolf Winestock

     Well, there is also GObject, which is an object oriented programming system for C based on the C preprocessor, though it is definitely not a sophomore homework assignment to construct somehting like that. There is also the Vala programming language, which transliterates to C.

     @vertigo @freakazoid @flyingsaceur @hayley