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   Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 06:59:46 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

   oh my fking god. I am TRYING to do research for my book right now but I am getting DISTRACTED by the fact that I followed a citation from a paper into another paper and learned that they're interpreting EEG and eyetracking as a way to sort people into "in the flow" or "not in the flow" I AM GOING TO EFFING LOSE IT

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 06:59:45 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     @gvwilson not sure if I could manage to do a paper that didn't just come off as simply wildly mean spirited, maybe I could do a video?!

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     Greg Wilson (gvwilson@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 06:59:46 JST Greg Wilson

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     I will pay cash up front for @grimalkina and colleagues to write a paper called "Ten Signs That the Software Engineering Paper You're Reading is a Plate of Raw Hamburger Paired with Rat Shit in a Back Alley Next to a Dumper" that calls out specific things they've seen in SE papers that are so wrongheaded and uninformed that their presence is a sign a printed copy is fit only for lining a bird cage (and a digital copy fit only for training LLMs you're going to give to people you dislike).

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:31 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     look, it's not that I wish anything but healing upon these people who wrote this paper and don't know better. it's just that you're so underserved. You're so underserved and you don't even know it. Somebody is serving you up a plate of raw hamburger paired with rat shit in the back alley next to the dumpster and telling you it's fine dining. You (software developers) BUILD THE WORLD. YOU COULD GET A NICE MEAL ONCE IN A WHILE.

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:32 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     What's the play guys. What's the thing. Are we going to believe developers are human beings if we count enough eyeblinks and say they're systematically different if you focus harder? Are we going to unlock the magical super Computer Brain region if we measure hard enough?

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:32 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     MY WIFE PUBLISHED A PAPER ABOUT HOW MOVEMENT DOMINATES BRAIN ACTIVITY AND NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR IN MEASURES AND NONE OF THESE GUYS READ IT

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:32 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     one of the measures is defined as capturing "various emotional states" I am dying

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:32 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     somebody made like twelve tables for this paper. Just like, table after table of everything they could tally up. NOT ONE OF THESE THINGS SHOWS KEY INFORMATION ABOUT THE EEG. This is like the baseball statistics version of analysis. Just tallying up as many numbers as possible. "mean task completion" across like six people which tells us fuck all about fuck all stfu

     Rocketman repeated this.
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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:33 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     I mean. Can we measure things with EEG and with eyetracking, yes we can. Can we detect different kinds of waves yes we can. Do blinks correlate with something, I don't know, probably. This is all just so effing strange.

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:33 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     how is engineering the most critical field with the LEAST critical research I've ever seen. Do you guys just think if something is published in Fuck All Journal, 2024, that makes it good?

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:33 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     ML CLASSIFIER ON SIX DATA POINTS WHAT IS HAPPENING

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:33 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     Movement dominates brain activity, and is ALSO a huge artifact in any skin conductance. So like THAT'S a confound in these conditions. Yet no details at all about how this is truly analyzed, because it's an off the shelf EEG "band" someone bought with some research cash I bet. This paper is "we thought this was cool and so we bought a lot of stuff and tried it."

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:34 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     I love that this was published in the same overall goddamn umbrella organization that sent me reviewers that said my work had "too much psychology" cited in it I AM. GOING. TO. LOSE. IT.

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:34 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     eyeblinks as a measure of frustration? I'm going to throw my entire laptop into the ocean

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 08:46:34 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     this is UNCRITICALLY cited in a BIG paper with NO reference to it being a biometrics study AT ALL

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 09:43:00 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     oh, I see, the sensor (purchased from some random website) has "two pre-processed signals" omfffffg YOU GUYS. HOW IT IS PROCESSED IS THE POINT

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 09:43:00 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     we're going to say that brain waves are predictive but not say WHICH brain waves we're talking about?

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     Eaton (eaton@phire.place)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 09:43:00 JST Eaton

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     @grimalkina oh, you know… waves…

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 09:43:01 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     You're stuck. We're all stuck. We're stuck in the back alley trying to say please god believe I have emotions look at my eyeballs WHO PUT US HERE

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 09:43:01 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     "we deleted all measurements that were marked as invalid by the eye-tracking device"

     ahahhahahahahahhahhahahahhahahahahahhaaaaaa

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     Dr. Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 09:43:01 JST Dr. Cat Hicks

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     they extracted??????? eyeblink "data"????? FROM THE EEG??????? what

     are we treating the artifact AS the measure now