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   Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 05:23:45 JST Aral Balkan

   No society where you need money to survive can call itself civilised.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 17:32:12 JST Aral Balkan

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     • jtgd

     @jtgd Many, to various degrees, based on their implementation of right to healthcare, right to shelter, and right to food; in other words, right to life. It’s easier to point out the outlier – the least civilised, proudly, by design: the one with the largest economy in the world and yet no right to healthcare, no right to shelter, and no right to food, but the most lethal military.

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     jtgd (jtgd@sfba.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 17:32:13 JST jtgd

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     @aral

     Please identify a society that fits your definition of "civilized".

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 17:45:42 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Orm Alephwyr ΘΔ

     @Alephwyr Hence the “to survive” bit.

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     Orm Alephwyr ΘΔ (alephwyr@chitter.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2024 17:45:43 JST Orm Alephwyr ΘΔ

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     @aral I mean, it depends on how the money is distributed. No society that asks more of people than they can comfortably deliver is civilized. No society that kills people for failing to labor according to its standards is civilized.