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Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:08 JST Goalkeeper
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No manufacturing didn't return to the US last time, that's why we are in the situation we are in. Any other questions?

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  Vasquez (sulaco@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:09 JST Vasquez
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  Did. It. Happen. Last. Time.
  
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  Vasquez (sulaco@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:10 JST Vasquez
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  Corpos are the ones spreading this 'orange doom' prophecy the same as last time. Don't let it infect your mind
  
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  skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:10 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
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  @sulaco @disclosetv @Goalkeeper @BigDuck @special-boy and you've infected your mind with unwarranted optimism that orange retard can accomplish anything of value, even if he wasn't cockblocked at every turn by an army of judges and bureaucrats.
  i'm not saying total economic collapse, i'm saying it'll only serve to cause price hikes for consumers and lower the buying power of a dollar while doing very little to nearly nothing to actually cause manufacturing to return to the US.
  
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  skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:11 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
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  @sulaco @disclosetv @Goalkeeper @BigDuck @special-boy that was pretty small scale so the impacts were limited
  again, what the dorks at the stock market have to say is irrelevant, what matters is the prices normal people have to pay to buy the shit they need to live.
  
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  Vasquez (sulaco@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:12 JST Vasquez
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  Again, I heard all of this before 2016 as well. Corpos went on a screeching fit about how orange man is going to doom us all. Turned out great actually.
  
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  Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:13 JST Goalkeeper
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  We will "Build American Infrastructure" for 3 to 5 years and then it will be mothballed for 20, AGAIN.
  
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  Vasquez (sulaco@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:13 JST Vasquez
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  What is your point? America isn't allowed to anything because you feel hopeless?
  
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  skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:13 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
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  @sulaco @disclosetv @Goalkeeper @BigDuck @special-boy your solutions fail to consider the scope of the problems making american manufacturing non-viable, offer none of the long-term stability that investment in manufacturing requires, and will just end up screwing over regular people with higher prices on goods.
  
  fat orange retard raving about tariffs doesn't make the city planning board expedite the permitting process on a new plant, nor waive the ever-lengthening list of bullshit code requirements. it doesn't make the state's DNR suddenly stop requiring a multi-million dollar environmental impact study before the project can even begin. it doesn't make the army of sniveling lawyers quit filing law suits on behalf of environmental NGOs, bratty natives, "we need mo money for dem programs", and the Boomer Oaks HOA who's mad about truck traffic on the highway, nor judges from issuing injunctions to halt construction for years until all the cases are resolved. it won't stop the army of HR women from rejecting every single person who applies for a job at the plant for not listing 10 years experience in manufacturing and a college degree on their resume. and it'll raise the price of all sorts of supplies and raw materials they'll need in construction and operation.
  
  if you had any idea how long it takes to renovate office space in an existing commercial building for a new tenant who wants slightly different shaped office space, you wouldn't be so optimistic on the ability to build out manufacturing capacity. you will sit around for a month leasing office space you can't use because the city building department wants to go back and forth with the engineering firm over the width of existing stairwells that aren't being modified in any way, and you will be happy.
  
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  Vasquez (sulaco@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:14 JST Vasquez
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  And there never will be if the status quo is maintained
  
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  skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:14 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
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  @sulaco @disclosetv @Goalkeeper @BigDuck @special-boy there will never be either way.
  even with tariffs, no one with more brain cells than an orange cat will invest in american manufacturing, because the absolute best case scenario is 4 years of trump and maybe the next guy will have some similar policy positions.
  this would be a super expensive investment that'll take ~years~ of planning, engineering, dealing with government bureaucracy, and construction before even beginning to produce results.
  realistically, in 4 or 8 years, democrats will be back in power. i don't wanna be the guy who has to explain to the investors that the $20 billion plant we started building in 2026 and is projected to be completed some time in 2029 will now be delayed by 2 years and cost $8 billion more to install newly mandated emissions equipment, and can now only ever run at a loss.
  
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  skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:15 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
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  @Goalkeeper @disclosetv @sulaco @BigDuck @special-boy the american product is $100 and you have to deal with some self-important faggot's um akshually we don't accept returns if it doesn't work you have to call our customer service department and then pay to ship it to an authorized service center and wait 6-8 weeks for repair
  the chinese product is $15, arrives tomorrow with free shipping from amazog, and they'll refund you no questions asked if you click the return button
  
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  Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:15 JST Goalkeeper
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  There is no "American" infrastructure in place to replace that right now.
  
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  Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:16 JST Goalkeeper
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  My point is that justifying the price hike because of muh patriotism isn't going to be enough to sway your average normalfag. They literally do not care.
  Oh wait I know what you are asking now. I do like American goods sometimes. Sometimes the quality is dogshit with an elevated price tag. Example: I like Japanese Chef's knives. American Chef's Knives suck by comparison.
  
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  Vasquez (sulaco@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:16 JST Vasquez
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  I think they understand from a high level as evidenced by Trump's reelection. They know the economy was better in his first term and the public wants him to do that again. They may not understand tarrifs but they understand the orange man is doing them and it makes the economy stronger
  
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  Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:16 JST Goalkeeper
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  Part of the problem I encounter is just that the American products are just fucking stagnant. Some company makes something that is a 100% improvement on a good or service and American made goods don’t pay attention so the product is ultimately outdated and inferior.
  
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  Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:17 JST Goalkeeper
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  The tariffs likely will get stopped in court. The average American consumes too much Chinese and Taiwanese products that it would cripple the economy There are zero alternatives. If he gave as much of a shit about American made he would make it easier for American business to thrive and compete Sometimes the quality of American goods is even more dogshit.
  
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  Vasquez (sulaco@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:17 JST Vasquez
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  Wouldn't import tariffs help American businesses thrive because now they can be competitive price wise with slave countries?
  
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  Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:18 JST Goalkeeper
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  special-boy :verified: (special-boy@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:18 JST special-boy :verified:
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  @Goalkeeper @BigDuck @disclosetv Theyll source their own Jew cum
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  :epstein: Mr. Quackers :duckie: :hoggers: (bigduck@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 02:45:19 JST :epstein: Mr. Quackers :duckie: :hoggers:
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