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   hagen terschüren (hagen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 01:27:13 JST hagen terschüren

   the notion that the ai energy demand will be fixed by efficiency gains in the future is a borderline lie. i don’t know if you’ve noticed, but we are done with doubling efficiency every two years. and we’ve been done for quite a while. if you watch the pc space most of the performance gains come from pumping more energy into the chips. a high end gaming pc will commonly use power supplies rated for 1,000 watts or higher. consoles have increased in size because they need the cooling.

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     hagen terschüren (hagen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 01:27:13 JST hagen terschüren

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     yes, amd is getting better, apple silicon is impressive. but the industry trends are clear. moore’s law is over. and the efficiency gains we are getting are mostly from specialized hardware baked into the chips like neural processing units and media encoders. process shrinks won’t fix this.

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     hagen terschüren (hagen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 01:27:13 JST hagen terschüren

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     »boomers ruined the world by just pushing all of their problems into the future«
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     »DON’T WORRY CHIPS WILL GET MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT AND WE SHOULD BET ON NUCLEAR FUSION RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT WILL DEFINITELY HAPPEN AND NOTHING COULD GO WRONG.«

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     hagen terschüren (hagen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 01:27:13 JST hagen terschüren

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     i love how »we shouldn’t live beyond our means« is only ever used to stop governments from investing into fixing society and never to stop burning resources we simply don’t have.

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