@adiz just look at what happened with Linus and the Russian maintainers. Not only did he happily oblige but he scolded anyone who dared question this move as nazis or whatever other usual suspects. I don't think they will have any real problems
@RustyCrab I wonder how things like this would be enforceable or controllable within the open source community? For example, running Linux and using only free/libre software and firmware on device. Using FLOS and self-hosted networks and communications protocols.
@adizhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-aeFekbm3Nc It would be one thing to say "sorry we have to comply with US sanctions". Quite another to gleefully libel anyone who thinks it's a bad move. FOSS people are some of the worst when it comes to sucking off governments and megacorps while thinking they're fighting the power.
@RustyCrab Linus? Russian maintainers? What happened? I'm unfamiliar. I think the benefits of the open source and libre software and operating system communities are that people can and will fork and develop their own solutions---and preexisting software can be interrogated and investigated for vulnerabilities in privacy and security. These are all concepts very popular and important amongst most users of Linux and the Fediverse. There are also a lot of marginalized groups and communities in this space of tech, not only politically marginalized groups (rightfully or wrongly so, e.g., "Nazis") for whom surveillance is of paramount importance.
@RustyCrab@adiz I think it was even worse than this video says, originally they were just telling people if they wanted more information they'd need a lawyer.
it's pretty telling how they handled it, they didn't go to bat for an open process at all, or even be apologetic about it, they were just evasive and abusive.
@RustyCrab@adiz people say Linus has changed, but he hasn't, he just pretends he's changed, but when he knows he can get away with it like in this case, he behaves like he's always done
@smugumin@RustyCrab It hasn't passed yet and is still subject to a lot of resistance within the EU parlament, if I understood things correctly. In any case it will be extremely funny to see how they plan to implement something that clearly only germoney/france actually want
@snacks@smugumin@moth_ball Germany seems to have a rather conflicting set of values when it comes to privacy. They break down peoples doors and sentence them to 20 years for saying faggot but they also host more tor nodes than anybody else in the world. Hosting them must not be that risky.
@adiz@RustyCrab >Haiku is free and open source I do hope that Haiku is 100% free software, but *all* nontrivial OS's I've looked at have contained proprietary software, except for GNU.
Weak licenses like MIT expat are a red flag for proprietary components, as it expectantly allows sub-licensing.
As Haiku contains and seemingly recommends proprietary software, it is proprietary software.
Tacking "open source" onto freedom is a mistake, as at least 2 proprietary licenses have been approved by the "OSI", thus by attempting to endorse "open source" equally to free software, you are endorsing proprietary software just as much as freedom.
Unfortunately, most people assume that "free and open source" means "gratis, source-available software", which is a very difficult error to rectify.
Once you've informed someone that free means freedom, they won't ever confuse free software with gratis software again.