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   Ross Mounce (rmounce@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 21:59:17 JST Ross Mounce

   Italian law continues to be bonkers... 🤯

   https://communia-association.org/2024/11/25/a-case-as-sweet-and-sour-as-balsamic-vinegar/

   #Italy #CulturalHeritage #COMMUNIA

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 21:59:14 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     • Alexander Winkler

     @awinkler There isn't.

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     Alexander Winkler (awinkler@openbiblio.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 21:59:16 JST Alexander Winkler

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     @rmounce so I wonder if there is a list of "culturally significant" works of art that are being subtracted from the public domain. At least this could by a useful resource ...

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 23:32:05 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     • Alexander Winkler

     @awinkler Yes. We've been telling the ministry for years. Instead of seeing it as a problem, the ministry has encouraged employees to weaponise this tool more. "Oooh, good point you're making, Parliament granted us a tool for ransom extraction and we hadn't fully used it so far! Let's fix that!"

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     Alexander Winkler (awinkler@openbiblio.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 23:32:06 JST Alexander Winkler

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis not surprised. so the application of this law is totally arbitrary and at the discretion of the italian state and its cultural heritage institutions. Which, again, means that you'd better not use anything.

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 23:39:02 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     • Alexander Winkler

     @awinkler The ministry boasted circa 2020 that they manage to cover the salary of two low-level functionaries in Rome. The most aggressive entities (like Gallerie dell'Accademia) have boasted about collecting figures which would barely cover the salary of the functionary assigned to ransom letter writing, let alone the lawyers involved in international lawsuits.

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     Alexander Winkler (awinkler@openbiblio.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 23:39:04 JST Alexander Winkler

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis are there any statistics/estimates on the ransom money they've made so far - directly/indirectly?

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:46:01 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     • Alexander Winkler

     @awinkler C'è qualche informazione in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Italian_cultural_heritage_on_the_Wikimedia_projects e ogni tanto nel sito pubblico di Wikimedia Italia, per esempio https://www.wikimedia.it/news/aspetti-costituzionali-della-riproduzione-fotografica-di-beni-culturali/ . È più facile coordinarsi se ti associ, ci sono anche alcune pagine interne. https://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Categoria:WLM

     Se invece intendi un'analisi dettagliata dell'impatto fiscale della norma, ancora manca. La corte dei conti però non ha dubbi che sia un disastro: https://www.robertocaso.it/2023/11/24/corte-dei-conti-e-riproduzione-dei-beni-culturali/
     https://creativecommons.it/chapterIT/index.php/1628/

     #LibertàDiPanorama

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     Alexander Winkler (awinkler@openbiblio.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:46:04 JST Alexander Winkler

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis mi piacerebbe molto saperne di più. Ti viene in mente dove potrei andare a cercare informazioni su questa vicenda? sarebbe in ogni caso una bella ricerca che potrebbe sfruttare anche le possibilità del FOIA. Ma forse questa ricerca è già stata fatta.

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     Alexander Winkler (awinkler@openbiblio.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:46:06 JST Alexander Winkler

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis 😄 great.