AnarchoNinaWrites
So many arguments against what I'm saying literally come down to "you want it to be one way, but it's the other."
I really do wish we lived in a world where the rich nazi capitalists boiling our children like soup could be reasoned with or circumvented on a large enough scale to prevent billions of people from dying.
We do not, and they are arming up right now with the intention of killing you if you try to create that world against their wishes. It only takes ONE side to declare war.
AnarchoNinaWrites
You can do mutual aid, you can care about other people, you can build cooperative networks to protect marginalized people from fascist violence, you can organize around changing the culture so that violent extraction is no longer regarded as a moral good. That's all fine and grand.
It's not going to change the fact that rich nazis who own your states very much intend to keep capitalism even if it turns the planet to ash and kills billions. Or that they plan to KILL you if you try to stop them.
AnarchoNinaWrites
No matter how much you change the culture, "not boiling us all to death for the benefit of a few thousand billionaire nazis" is NEVER going to be on the ballot. You will have to FIGHT for it, or they will fucking kill you.
And I can prove it, because that's why they're installing fascism all over the Pig Empire. They know you're not going to CHOOSE to fucking die for them, so they are removing your ability to choose.
"You want it to be one way, but it's the other."
AnarchoNinaWrites
I dunno, maybe it's possible to organize enough of the 8B+ people about to become fuel for billionaire booster rockets to Mars so they will simply surrender knowing they cannot win the fight. In theory, that's possible.
But it's certainly NOT the outcome the folks who own everything (including your governments) are intending and they are in fact taking VIOLENT countermeasures to prevent that from happening.
I'm not asking you to go full Che by yourself; just to accept reality in front of you.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@maxsol I absolutely do not believe it's too late and we have evidence the very same rich people planning to boil us alive for pennies on the share are PAYING to encourage a sense of nihilism and resignation in the populace. Like the UN even reported that, it's not a theory, rich people, fossil fuel companies, capitalist governments are working overtime to convince you it's too late.
It will never be too late, because more ppl can always die and they are worth saving. All of them.
maxsol
@AnarchoNinaWrites so much time wasted telling us that fear demobilizes, freezes
I try to imagine that “after” we can start moving
after, after what?
it's already too late. too late for who ?
Nice to meet you, after all
AnarchoNinaWrites
@drchrispearce @hannu_ikonen I don't read fiction; even allegorical fiction. Too many other things to read. But thanks for the suggestion; maybe other people reading this will find it useful.
drchrispearce
@AnarchoNinaWrites @hannu_ikonen
2006, Ben Elton wrote a book ‘Stark’ about billionaires, the planet and how it might all end up. Increasingly, no longer fiction. Read it.
The Liquid Clear (Bree D)
@AnarchoNinaWrites @maxsol I don't mind not being saved, this world is temporary and I can't wait to leave, but it's not time yet
AnarchoNinaWrites
@liquid_clear Well, cool, but I suspect there are 8B some odd people who don't really care that you're fine with oblivion and this post could have been a livejournal.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@maxsol I would very much like to be untagged from this thread. I'm not a therapist.
maxsol
@liquid_clear @AnarchoNinaWrites
I hear you, I can understand, but I have difficulty renouncing to the beauty of worlds
this beauty is not contingent, it is there even without us, especially without us, the "humans"
maxsol
curmudgeonaf 🇨🇦NS
@AnarchoNinaWrites @maxsol You’re right that there will always be a theoretical possibility, but anything is possible in theories. You must also consider the practical reality, and probability of something happening, based on many other factors, such as human nature, current momentum, cost / benefit calculations, and so forth.
The world is much more complicated (and depressing), than your idealistic imagination.
AnarchoNinaWrites
Please fuck off.
Kthanx.
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