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   lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd: (lfa@hostux.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 03:35:34 JST lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd:

   I enjoyed watching "Before Macintosh: The Apple Lisa". The full documentary is available online.

   https://youtu.be/psAeTDYezdo

   #retrocomputing #AppleLisa #lisa

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     lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd: (lfa@hostux.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 05:03:52 JST lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd:

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     • Harald Eilertsen

     @harald I had an MSX at that time 😅 I think no one could afford a Lisa, at least not as a home computer, apart of the mega rich of course.

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     Harald Eilertsen (harald@hub.volse.no)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 05:03:56 JST Harald Eilertsen

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     @lfa Oo, that looks interesting. I remember when the Lisa came, and while it looked interesting at the time, there was no way a kid like me could afford one.
     
     Anyways, thanks for the tip! This might be tonights entertainment :)
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     lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd: (lfa@hostux.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 06:13:46 JST lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd:

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     • The Turtle

     @the_turtle You sparked my curiosity. Working on a Lisa having the Star? If you can (and want) tell me more 🤓

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     The Turtle (the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 06:13:47 JST The Turtle

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     @lfa i worked on a Lisa in 1985, like, for WORK, and at the last place you'd expect:

     Xerox Corporation, the people who pioneered a lot of the shit that went into Lisa.

     I liked it immensely, and have Apple gear to this day, as soon as I could afford it. 15 years later...

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     The Turtle (the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 06:23:16 JST The Turtle

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     @lfa the 8010, by the way, was interesting to fool with, but the Lisa 7/7 software (and later the "Mac XL" hack got the interface righter, in my opinion. And the only other thing on that Ethernet segment was the Xerox "Raven" laser printer. Without anybody to talk to, a Star is a lonely being. At least the Lisa had a modem and I could dial into all the Xerox online stuff (mainframes, other stuff) which Star could not.

     Our Lisa had the internal hard disk, not the ProFile, and a 3.5" diskette.

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     lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd: (lfa@hostux.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 06:23:16 JST lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd:

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     • The Turtle

     @the_turtle Fascinating! Something like that would never have crossed my mind.

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     lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd: (lfa@hostux.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 06:32:20 JST lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd:

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     • Harald Eilertsen

     @harald The first computer I met was a friend's ZX Spectrum 48k. I enjoyed playing videogames until I watched the guy typing something for some time and then seeing the machine showing some graphics on the TV. Oh man! That was my Path to Ruin 😅

     After that I wanted a computer to learn programming. I got the MSX as a present and I learnt BASIC with it. I enjoyed doing my mini text adventures with BASIC... I can remember all those GOTOs 😂 .
     Yes! Computers were so much more fun in those days 🙂

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     Harald Eilertsen (harald@hub.volse.no)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 06:32:24 JST Harald Eilertsen

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     @lfa Really interesting doc! Lots of stuff I didn't know.
     
     The MSX machines were pretty cool too, I remember. Didn't have one myself, but an older uncle had one that I could play a bit around with. My first computer was a Dragon 32 (similar to the Tandy Color Computer in the US), but later I got a used Intertec Superbrain running a weird "multiuser" CP/M variant. Computers were so much more fun in those days!
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     lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd: (lfa@hostux.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 06:35:45 JST lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd:

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     • The Turtle

     @the_turtle Thanks for telling me all this. I really find it interesting.

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     The Turtle (the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 06:35:46 JST The Turtle

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     @lfa we pissed a lot of people off with that leasing stunt (Xerox had its own equipment leasing division), but I had shit to do and I wasn't gonna get it done on an old 820-II with a Diablo 620 daisywheel SERIAL printer and 8" floppies...

     After they were worn out in office use, Xerox actually offered them for sale (used) to employees!

     There are probably more Xerox CP/M machines around Rochester, New York than anywhere in the world. They're all in boxes in the garage.