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   R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 09:13:22 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

   Dear Programming Language dev teams,

   If your language has a package manager,

   it NEEDS to be as fully-featured and easy-to-use as apt.

   No more "use the website to search for packages"
   No more "it installs, but not upgrades or uninstalls"
   No more "Ok, it installs, but it isn't necessarily fully functional"
   No more "It installs, but you need arcane options for the upgrade to function."

   MAKE IT AS EASY AS APT,
   Or don't release a package manager.

   </rant>, a.k.a. Fin.

   Merci.

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     pinskia (pinskia@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 09:13:21 JST pinskia

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     • Cobweb, Currently Clean on OPSEC; Grungler; Ⓐ ⁂ Ⓐ ⁂

     @cobweb @RL_Dane it is about cpan (j/k)

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     Cobweb, Currently Clean on OPSEC; Grungler; Ⓐ ⁂ Ⓐ ⁂ (cobweb@corteximplant.com)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 09:13:22 JST Cobweb, Currently Clean on OPSEC; Grungler; Ⓐ ⁂ Ⓐ ⁂

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     @RL_Dane is this about rust? This is about rust isn’t it

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 09:17:26 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • Cobweb, Currently Clean on OPSEC; Grungler; Ⓐ ⁂ Ⓐ ⁂
     • pinskia

     @pinskia @cobweb

     lol, CPAN-chan is doing her best, leave her be. XD

     Yes, it's about pip and rust. And basically everything else that calls itself a package manager (or something suggesting a package manager), but "mails it in" for essential features.

     pip removed the search feature years ago, and I'm still salty about it. ;)

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     pinskia (pinskia@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 09:17:26 JST pinskia

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     • Cobweb, Currently Clean on OPSEC; Grungler; Ⓐ ⁂ Ⓐ ⁂

     @RL_Dane @cobweb You missed the `(j/k)` part. And cpan is 10x better than rust and pip. rust package manager is just to show there are many duplicated packages that might have security holes in it (not due to memory issues though).

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     Clayton (craftyguy@freeradical.zone)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:42:55 JST Clayton

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     @RL_Dane it's very slow, and the interface is clunky

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:42:55 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • Clayton

     @craftyguy

     Try brew or pkg_add, and get back to me. 😄

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:42:56 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • Clayton

     @craftyguy

     What's wrong with apt?

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     Clayton (craftyguy@freeradical.zone)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:42:57 JST Clayton

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     @RL_Dane nooo not like apt, anything but apt!

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     MortSinyx (cnx@awkward.place)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:43:53 JST MortSinyx

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     Dear Programming Language dev teams, don't release a package manager.
     
     </rant>, a.k.a. Fin.
     
     Merci.