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The Creator of the Universe ... in your own head cannon. The one where he/she/it is good and the best representation of the ideal of what people hope all of humanity's best can be.
The Christians Jesus tells people to sell all they have and give everything to the poor, and to touch the sick and diseased. The reality of doing this is impossible and impractical for normal humans, but our spiritual messiahs are the embodiment of the idealistic myth; the impossible we can never be (nor should we ever be, because implementing such an ideal would either stall or break society. The ideal is really a luxury belief.)
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@djsumdog @7666 @arcana It's not a luxury belief. It is universal doctrine that every person falls short. You just deal with imperfect self and imperfect world. The mechanism to get out of it was a blood sacrifice so powerful that it covered all sin for all time.
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A luxury belief is one that seems like a great to those who are well of as a way of improving the lives of those who aren't well off, but the actual implementation is counter-intuitively destructive to the people they think they're helping. Example: Defund the police.
Sell everything and give it to the poor. Seems like a great idea, right? If everyone would do that, everyone would have enough. But there is the Tragedy of the Commons. What if you earned what you built, and the poor do not?
I think most of what people consider Christ's teachings today approach those luxury beliefs. They were tempered with a moral code and feeling indebted to the grace of God, so they were very powerful in moving society forward. But the Christianity of today would be unrecognizable to the Christianity of 150 or 200 AD.
Constantine's solidification of our modern Christian doctrines under Catholicism have been an incredible moral code (Rome threw out Gnosticism, confusing creation myths, other fragmented gospels; simplifying things into modern Essenian/Paulian Christianity). But people are no longer comfortable with the idea of blood sacrifices. They want to expand inclusiveness while disregarding the moral constraints. Without the moral constraints, why would you even need grace.
Old evangelicals and reformed may not like this move to progressiveness in the Church, but it is literally the next logical expansion of the current Christian mythos.
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@djsumdog @7666 @arcana > Sell everything and give it to the poor.
I have a sermon on this but nobody here wants to read it so basically just understand you're not really expected to do that.
> the Christianity of today would be unrecognizable to the Christianity of 150 or 200 AD.
I spent a lot of time learning about this, and boy oh boy that is understated. but there are a few core things.
> But people are no longer comfortable with the idea of blood sacrifices.
u are in luck because its pretty much the first thing thrown out
> progressiveness in the Church, but it is literally the next logical expansion of the current Christian mythos.
christianity without Christ is a Satanic perversion and one that has been planned and prepared and perpetrated since pre-flood times. You're just seeing it more because Satan is winning.
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@djsumdog @7666 @arcana @sun
The failing of Abrahamic religion, and Christinanity in particular is that it can't adapt to pragmatic realities and accrue new wisdom which is appropriate to present circumstances, without first contorting it into the shape of the pseudohistorical fantasy novel in order to provide it with the prerequisite literary justification.
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@djsumdog @7666 @arcana @sun Christianity is tough because there are three contradicting stories at work in the New Testament.
"Be as Christ is; surrender your entire self to serving the bottom, and the kingdom of God will be manifested"
"God has redeemed and transfigured all extant things into Good"
"Live according to the rule of your Baptism and you will be resurrected in the future, when the current world is cast into fire."
Any particular Christian can pick which of these three they care about. 2 of them are very compatible with Gay Race Communism, one is not. Conservative Christians want some version of the third to be placed at a higher priority than the other two, but it's no clear by any means that this is orthodox, it's just the only way to salvage a tradition that has been completely broken by modern questions.
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@sun @7666 @djsumdog @arcana
> Satan is winning
idk it's kinda not possible for Satan to win? only for it to appear like he's winning to better demonstrate the glory of God
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@djsumdog @7666 @arcana @sun
Even more, what if giving to the poor only subsidized their dysfunction?
Darwinism trumps.
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