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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 01:08:47 JST 
Bread up, Bro
@Kazak @jeffcliff I think this is consistent. If you get a woman pregnant and she gets the child killed, you would be an accessory to murder; but in that case she would be as well, and the person who did the work would be the murderer. - BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this.
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 02:10:49 JST
Bread up, Bro
@jeffcliff @Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak harsh but fair -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 02:10:50 JST 
Victor_Emmanuel
@sickburnbro @Kazak @jeffcliff This would only be consistent if the father had any say in the abortion -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 02:10:50 JST 
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro He does. You can keep your dick in your pants -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 03:28:34 JST
Bread up, Bro
@jeffcliff @Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak jeff, I'd suggest giving people a little leeway on that, there have been a lot of bad actors on the internet so people are quick to pull the rug. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 03:28:35 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro ah yes the typical poast response to someone who consistently disagrees with them "you must be a troll no one can actually be right and disagree with me" -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 03:28:36 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro
> So, celibacy for all men.
that doesn't follow
> You do realize married women can still get abortions right
what's your point?
> Why are you allergic to women having responsibility?
I'm not. That thread is not about women's responsibility it's about men's responsibility. Why are you allergic to *men* having responsibility? -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 03:28:36 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro Ok your trolling. This was all bait. -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 03:28:37 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro So, celibacy for all men. You do realize married women can still get abortions right? Why are you allergic to women having responsibility? -
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WhitestTemplar (whitesttemplar@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:37:55 JST 
WhitestTemplar
@jeffcliff @Kazak @Victor_Emmanuel @sickburnbro The woman can also close her fucking legs and stop being a slut. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:37:55 JST
Bread up, Bro
@WhitestTemplar @jeffcliff @Kazak @Victor_Emmanuel that's why I said both mother and father would be accessories -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:38:46 JST
Bread up, Bro
@WhitestTemplar @jeffcliff @Kazak @Victor_Emmanuel if you tried to stop it then yeah you could use that as evidence that you aren't guilty. -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:38 JST
Victor_Emmanuel
@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro So you say but I want you to answer it any way -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:38 JST
Bread up, Bro
@Victor_Emmanuel @jeffcliff @Kazak what's very interesting is that in the US there was actually a court case in the 60s where it was decided that a husband actually had no say in if his wife wanted an abortion. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:39 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro Not relevant to the thread. -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:40 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro It's the woman who chooses to have the abortion, nigger. There is no state in the US where fathers are required to sign off on an abortion -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:40 JST
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@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro
And those innocent men, they have no part in it whatsoever I'm sure. Must be storks or something that bring the baby into the woman's life for her to kill. -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:40 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro Should the woman be punished? Yes or no? -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:41 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro I don't see you saying "abortion should be banned" just "men should be punished if a women gets an abortion" -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:41 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro
that's generally how the law works
if you punish someone by law when a X happens that's generally called "making X illegal" or "banning X" -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:42 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro Then why did you bring up abortion law impacting wives as some gotcha? I also have not heard you say abortion should be banned -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:42 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro
> I also have not heard you say abortion should be banned
start again at the top -->
https://shitposter.world/notice/Ao3PTopNUyOWZ8JwZM -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:43 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro Oh ok. You want baby murder to be legal. This whole thread is just you saying "if your against women killing their babies you should die." -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:43 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro
jeff > let's charge baby murder as a felony!
victor > jeff wants baby murder to be legal
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:44 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro
"What do you mean I can't have unprotected sex with/knock up every woman I meet? How will I survive?"
look to the incels, they know how to live like this -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:44 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro Nigger. Your law would affect husbands too -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:44 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro kinda like how abortion law typically impacts wives? -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:45 JST
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@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro (1) name the state that contradicts this premise
(5) How is it irrelevant? Laws impact everyone. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:45 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro (1) the "state" where your dick is kept in your pants
(2) the thread is *explicitly* about *men's* rights and responsibilities. Women's rights and responsibilities are *not* relevant -
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Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:46 JST
Victor_Emmanuel
@jeffcliff @Kazak @sickburnbro Ok fine, I'll break it down into syllogisms.
1. The father has no say in wether the mother has an abortion.
2. There is no responsibility where there is no agency.
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3. Fathers are not responsible for abortions.
4. You propose to execute the Father if the mother chooses to have an abortion (the party that lacks responsibility not the responsible one)
5. No law discriminates on which women can get an abortion (Married women can get an abortion as easily as a whore can)
6. Sex can result in a pregnancy
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7. All men, married or unmarried, must risk being executed when they have sex. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 07:44:46 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Victor_Emmanuel @Kazak @sickburnbro
> 1. The father has no say in wether the mother has an abortion.
I reject this
> 2. There is no responsibility where there is no agency.
there is agency
3. is irrelevant since I disagree with both presmises
> 4. You propose to execute the Father if the mother chooses to have an abortion
Felony != execution in civilized society
> 5. No law discriminates on which women can get an abortion (Married women can get an abortion as easily as a whore can)
irrelevant that is not what that thread is about so conclusion is also irrelevant
> 6. Sex can result in a pregnancy
the only thing we seem to agree on
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