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   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 22:44:07 JST Bread up, Bro
   they are literally trying to own RFK by using 40 year old industry supported pro seed oil literature.
   
   Remember, the reason seed oils have money behind them is because even from the Crisco time it was a marketing effort. They had a waste product and their task was to sell it.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 22:48:05 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @pepsi_man livescience.com/history-of-crisco.html
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     pepsi_man (pepsi_man@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 22:48:06 JST pepsi_man

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     How is Crisco a waste product?
     
     I understand that's the case with fluoride in the water, but Crisco?
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     Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 22:52:49 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.

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     Haven't got it on hand. But I recall reading (from an actual source, not just some online schizo) about how the AHA was bankrolled and incentivized to publish bogus science about how crisco wasn't bad for you or whatever
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     Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 22:52:50 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.

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     The AHA was literally created by thecompany that made crisco or whatever. Interesting fact
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     pepsi_man (pepsi_man@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 22:52:50 JST pepsi_man

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     Link?
     
     At some point, I have to read about and explain this to my family.
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     Wrath (eiswald@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 22:56:34 JST Wrath

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     @sickburnbro @pepsi_man youtube.com/watch?v=rQmqVVmMB3k&t
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 22:56:34 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • pepsi_man
     @Eiswald @pepsi_man I don't mind finding uses for stuff that would be waste, but the problems come when their becomes a massive financial incentive that overrides health concerns.
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     dictatordave (dictatordave@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 23:03:47 JST dictatordave

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     • pepsi_man
     @EvilSandmich @sickburnbro @pepsi_man i'd say many of the drugs available to keep diabetics alive or weight loss drugs for example, are contributing to people being lazier and thinking that pharma will save them, at least on a subconscious level
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     EvilSandmich (evilsandmich@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 23:03:48 JST EvilSandmich

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     @sickburnbro @pepsi_man It's interesting though because:
     >In 1909, Procter & Gamble acquired the United States rights to the Normann patent.[12] In 1911, they began marketing the first hydrogenated shortening, Crisco, composed largely of partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil.
     
     A poison is in the dose to be sure, but that's a really long time. Our food/weight issues seem much more recent.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 23:06:38 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • pepsi_man
     @EvilSandmich @pepsi_man right, but between the time of starting the use and it actually dominating was long.
     
     For example, in many places these fake oils weren't allowed to be colored like butter - they had to be sold white. Now every fake shitty oil is colored like butter so you think it's healthy.
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     Ricky "Bender" LaFluer :nv: (evil_bender@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 23:48:31 JST Ricky "Bender" LaFluer :nv:

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     • pepsi_man
     HFC is IMMEDIATELY stored as fat in the body, and the shape of the molecule allows for more of it to be stored. Fix the sugar and the food will follow, they put it in fucking EVERYTHING! I live in corn country we have got to STOP subsidizing corn! If we want to over grow anything it should be hemp and switchgrass.
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     pepsi_man (pepsi_man@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 23:48:31 JST pepsi_man

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     What's so special about switchgrass?
     
     @EvilSandmich @sickburnbro
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     givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 23:53:07 JST givenup

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     @Escoffier @sickburnbro @EvilSandmich @pepsi_man i'm more inclined to believe this shit was in the pursuit of the dollar rather than a concerted effort to tank general health through malice and conspiracy tbh.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 23:53:07 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Escoffier Gab refugee
     @givenup @Escoffier @EvilSandmich @pepsi_man I would agree that it wasn't done as a conspiracy to tank health. At some point they *did* become aware of it having health problems, and that's when they started funding "proof" that it was better for your health. That is when it did become a conspiracy to harm health.
     
     It's exactly like the tobacco companies. ( Also sugar companies did this )
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 23:53:08 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     • pepsi_man
     @sickburnbro @EvilSandmich @pepsi_man And there's a sequence of events.
     
     Sugar becomes cheap and plentiful in 1800
     
     Seed oils in the early 1900's
     
     Anti fat messaging starting in the 50's
     
     Food pyramid introduced in 1979
     
     HFCS introduced shortly after.
     
     The last 200 years have been a debacle for human health
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     Wrath (eiswald@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 00:00:31 JST Wrath

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     @pepsi_man @sickburnbro You'd be shocked and disgusted at the amount of toxic industrial waste that goes directly into the American food supply.
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     :suihead: (sui@decayable.ink)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 00:01:13 JST :suihead:

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     weeeeeeeeee
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 00:01:13 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @Sui @feralphilosophernc @Eiswald @pepsi_man nah, things do matter, and now we have a chance to take a step back and say "actually let's make things a bit better now that we know for sure"
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     Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse (feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 00:01:15 JST Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse

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     I'm at the point in my life where I really wouldn't be shocked in the slightest.
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     kollap5 (kollap5@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 00:52:06 JST kollap5

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     @sickburnbro Only takes a quick search to figure this out, but something tells me they are incapable of self research or critical thinking.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 00:52:33 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @kollap5 from the look of it, this is from NYT's complains about RFK
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     CrustyB (crustyburgerhead@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 01:27:45 JST CrustyB

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     • Escoffier Gab refugee
     Conversely, it's been argued that if sugar were introduced today the FDA would ban it.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 01:27:46 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     • pepsi_man
     @sickburnbro @givenup @EvilSandmich @pepsi_man Here's an interesting bit of logic. When artificial sweeteners were introduced in the 1920's the sugar industry flipped out and did a propaganda program that still resonates today. That being said the sugar industry has been searching desperately for anything that would allow them to claim they were a health hazard and they found absolutely nothing.