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   kravietz 🦇 (kravietz@agora.echelon.pl)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 08:16:12 JST kravietz 🦇

   Make no mistake 😉

   • #Russia invades #Ukraine, fires cruise missiles through #Romania and #Moldova airspace, brings thousands of #NorthKorea soldiers - no, this is not WW3
   • US allows Ukraine to hit Russian airports from where the cruise missiles are fired - yes, this is WW3

   There’s now literally a flood of the “WW3” bots on Twitter, this must have hurt Kremlin.

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     brett (brett@swarm.coiloptic.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 08:16:11 JST brett

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     @kravietz@agora.echelon.pl there are no missiles going through Romania and Moldova, be more selective in your sources, you are amplifying the very propaganda (100% lies) that bring us closer to ww3
     
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     kravietz 🦇 (kravietz@agora.echelon.pl)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 09:10:09 JST kravietz 🦇

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     • of nothing

     @apropos

     Ukraine attacks secessionist states in the Donbas

     Let’s just stop here because I actually was in Donbas when it unrolled in 2013 -and guess what, there was zero fighting, zero ban on Russian language and all the other bullshit that Russia invented 10 years later.

     The fighting in Donbas started the day Russian soldiers, with their official patches cowardly removed, crossed from Russia into Ukraine and started capturing administration buildings and killing resisting officials.

     You can save your “secessionist” bullshit for more gullible audience, one that also believes stories of “crucified boy of Slavyansk”.

     By the way, I was staying there, in Slavyansk, on my last trip in September 2013. And guess what - I was talking Russian to everyone, and nobody had even slightest feeling that in only half year Russian soldiers will invade.

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     of nothing (apropos@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 09:10:10 JST of nothing

     in reply to
     @kravietz
     >US allows Ukraine to hit Russian airports
     The chief problem is that this isn't what's happening. What's happening is
     >US allows US soldiers to obey Ukrainian orders to hit Russian airports
     The weapon systems aren't fully under Ukrainian control, which a big part of why "US allows" is part of the discussion at all.
     The picture simplifies too readily to "US attacks Russia", which is WW3.
     
     Lesser problem:
     >Russian invades Ukraine
     this is one country attacking another country. The first word in 'WW3' is 'World'. The conflict so far has not extended much outside of Ukraine, despite Ukraine's occasional psychotic terror attack on Russian soil or even "Ukrainian soil" like Crimean beaches full of civilians.
     This was already preceded by ten years of
     >Ukraine attacks secessionist states in the Donbas
     which also wasn't WW3, just like Israel attacking Gaza isn't (yet) WW3.
     >brings thousands of North Korean soldiers
     to rear parts of Kursk. So what? Western special forces have been 'volunteering' in Ukraine since the outset.
     
     If you have a problem thnking of it in terms of WW3, just think of it in terms of "nuclear war with Russia". Right now, only Ukraine is at war with Russia. And despite the full support of NATO, Ukraine is losing very badly. NATO, having depletes its weapon systems and failed even to deter Yemen from blockading a sea route to Israel, and having helped to increase Russian veterancy and Russian familiarity with NATO weapon systems, is now not able to Russia in any capacity except with nukes.
     
     Nukes are bad, OK? We also have different nukes: Russia has super-poisonous super-fallout world-ending nukes, and the US has clean backpack nukes for bunker-busting and disclaimable nuclear terrorism.