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:blobcatlaugh: i love it, Twitch has an "Ad Issue", they lost supposedly about 70% of the Ads due to the companies not supporting what streamers do (probably because of the Middle East conflict).
Leading to unrelated streamers are angry against Twitch because they lost often more than 70% of their Ad revenue.
For Users it has benefits, way less Ads than before if you watch twitch streams
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@Jain half decent people: :blobcatthumbsup: having peace and not giving billions for genocides
businesses: :neofox_bottom: no
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@icedquinn Thats what it looks like from the point of view of certain streamers yes. The other point of view is that twitch has an antisemitic issue and thats the consequence. And the third Point of view are now the unrelated people who depend on that money and get fucked over
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@Jain i think we should deport the people who want to criminalize criticising israel... to israel.
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@Jain like there's a large degree of this nonsense that is literally just one fucking country trying to escape being criticized by hiding it all under "oh no its racism help."
like, no, and there's more than enough jews who hate the place too. it's just some stupid bullshit to crow people out of burning their ass for things like claiming it was ok to bomb schools because "our AI said so [sic]"
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@icedquinn @Jain twitch deserves this because one of their coddled streamers was the physical embodiment of "if they were white talking about other groups like this they would be gone in a microsecond" all they had to do was enforce their tos consistently
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@icedquinn This is a populist and harmful solution to a complicated problem for which there is no solution
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@Jain populist? no.
classical imperialist
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@Jain This is exactly why need to diversify your revenue as a streamer. You will get fucked over by ads one day or another.
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@stefan oh i hate Ads, they shouldnt depend on it at all
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@Jain traditional american populists were like socialist farmers they mostly just wanted freedom from banking credit empires (which they failed to achieve, rip)
(i've been finishing up The Populist Moment, a book about actual american populism)
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@icedquinn @Jain i interpreted what you said to be less about so;ving the middle east problem and more bout fixing the people in the usa who don't believe in free speech problem
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@sun @Jain honestly i would respect amazon slightly more if they were like fuck you our streamers can say whatever they want if its not illegal
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@icedquinn The conflict is more complex and breaking it down to "Israel is to blame" does not do justice to the conflict at all. I see that as populism, definitely
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@icedquinn @sun i mean thats what happened, they could say everything but the consequence is now that they lost Ad Partner
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@Jain you do realize the current crop of so-called populists are typically in favor of shielding israel from criticism and infinite money for them to continue their war right
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@Jain @sun may the advertisers step on legos and the door slam on their ass on the way out :drgn_up:
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@icedquinn oh i do have criticism on all of that too
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@Jain i do not thing the usa should be allies. they have never done anything for us but demand money and protection. they offer the hegemony nothing.
the middle east in general i find to be next to worthless, but that's just me. i'd rather we find some way to make peace with russia :blobcatwoah: but too many people here don't want that to be possible
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@Jain we could do great things if it were possible to make it happen :blobcatpain: i just.. don't think we can
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@sun @Jain someblob was posting about how they gave them some billions of money to blow up more hospitals but the hurricane victims in the USA got like 400$
if a feudal lord got caught doing this they would be so goddamn dead
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@sun @Jain i mean historically emperors have been killed for less :gutkato_konsternita: idk blobs
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@icedquinn @sun thats also very populistic since it is well known that hamas use them as protection. Even organizations who are against what israel does, akknowledge that
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@Jain tbh fuck those ads...
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@s8n @icedquinn :blobcatgoogly: on certain things i dont mind if people not agreeing with me... quinn should know that
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@icedquinn @Jain I can hear the cognitive dissonance setting in