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   Steven Deobald (deobald@fantastic.earth)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 15:31:31 JST Steven Deobald

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   • Samuel Chase

   @masukomi @samebchase i don’t, personally. there’s very little difference to me between something licensed apache2, agpl-3, or mpl, as a user.

   the difference between something being open source (a term with a strict definition, clearly defined by a single organization) and not-open-source is all that matters, for most usage. developers care about license details. users rarely do.

   think of it this way. it’s like saying “vegan (mostly 😉)” with an explanation of why there are eggs in the product later on. with stuff like this, it’s just … a lot easier (and more polite) to use the right words up front.

   i know dozens of projects/products go so far as to claim they are open source (without even a wink) these days when they’re not. “everyone else is doing it” isn’t a valid justification, either. it’s one of the few places in the english language where we actually have a clear definition like this. it’s good to use it.

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     masukomi (masukomi@connectified.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 15:31:32 JST masukomi

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     @deobald @samebchase also, anyone who cares is going to care about WHICH open source license and is then going to read the details anyway. Those are the people i least need to explain the differences to.

     Edit: Also, I’m pretty up-front about it right there on the front page.

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     Steven Deobald (deobald@fantastic.earth)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 15:31:34 JST Steven Deobald

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     • Samuel Chase

     @samebchase @masukomi thanks for sharing this, sam.

     fwiw, it’s *really* helpful to avoid using the term “open source” for things which don’t have an open source license attached. the commons clause makes this software “shared source” or “source available” — but it isn’t open source at all, and labelling it that way (even with a caveat) will be quite confusing to folks who use and read that term as it’s intended.

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     masukomi (masukomi@connectified.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 15:31:34 JST masukomi

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     • Samuel Chase

     @deobald @samebchase yes but explaining that sucks and takes way more time and brain-space than most people actual want to invest in a concept that they either don’t care about or isn’t actually relevant to their usage of the software

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     Samuel Chase (samebchase@fantastic.earth)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 15:31:35 JST Samuel Chase

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     @masukomi This looks great! Congratulations. 🎉

     I'm in the process of deciding whether I want to use Fossil Wiki pages to store notes or whether I want to self host something like what you've done here.

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     masukomi (masukomi@connectified.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 15:31:36 JST masukomi

     I'm simultaneously excited 🎉 and feel like a complete moron. 🤦♀️

     Because I've spent decades using bookmark managers without the ability to use _full_ markdown (or anything similar) when creating bookmark descriptions, it took A YEAR for it to occur to me that now that I've created my own bookmark manager ( https://backupbrain.app ) I can do things like create links to related pages in the description any bookmark.