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   jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 09:01:27 JST jwz

   @SomaFMrusty That's the beauty of it, though -- if you want to make a small site fall over, just post a link to it *in a reply to me*.

   This system is not a good system.

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     Gary "grim" Kramlich (grimmy@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 13:58:25 JST Gary "grim" Kramlich

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     @jwz @SomaFMrusty I proposed a project to nlnet to attempt to tackle this and they rejected it... 🙄

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     Mark Kraft (krafttea@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 12:59:09 JST Mark Kraft

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     @jwz @SomaFMrusty ... and that's why LJ made Memcached.
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memcached

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 13:06:35 JST jwz

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     • Mark Kraft

     @KraftTea @SomaFMrusty
     Here we go again.

     "Everyone who replied with 'use a CDN' is really saying, 'I expect all web sites to be run by skilled and dedicated professionals, who deploy future-proofed technology stacks, so that my social network can be run by amateur hobbyists."

     https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/11/mastodon-stampede/#comment-238293

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     Mark Kraft (krafttea@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 13:11:29 JST Mark Kraft

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     @jwz @SomaFMrusty I was actually implying that the work shouldn't have to be done on your end, but rather that there might be opportunities for things to be fetched only a few times, and distributed within clusters.

     It wouldn't make sense to do it the other way. But the general idea of what it does stands.

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 13:59:31 JST jwz

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     • Mark Kraft

     @KraftTea @SomaFMrusty So you're suggesting a shared CDN that all the anarchic mastodon instances would share? That seems... fraught. Even discounting funding. Also it is effectively recentralization. My proposal is different, rather than caching a zillion loads how about transport it with the post and loading zero.

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     Mark Kraft (krafttea@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 14:09:30 JST Mark Kraft

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     @jwz @SomaFMrusty I don't see why it would have to mean recentralization, as much as having some admins who would be willing to be spokes / regional hubs to a certain range of other sites.

     Every large global social media site is essentially decentralized, in technologically meaningful ways that generally boost performance.

     My comment re: Memcached was merely that yours was the kind of problem it solved. But if it can be solved efficiently in ways that don't drive users crazy, I'm all for it.