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   Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:06 JST Rusty Crab
   Idk man, both the Incel 14900k and Arrow Lake look like train wrecks, but the base stats of the latest AMD offerings don't seem appropriate for the kind of work I do (ball crushing factory)
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     KaiserKitty (kaiserkitty@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:06 JST KaiserKitty

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     @RustyCrab Apple Silicon M4 :ablobcatangel:
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     KaiserKitty (kaiserkitty@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:43 JST KaiserKitty

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     @RustyCrab @Forestofenchantment I have a linux laptop with an nvidia card for gaming and personal use, a macbook for school/work, and a steam deck for gaming. I'm also saving up to build my own desktop with separate Linux and windows drives.
     
     POSIX is a must for me now for a daily driver tbh. I really hate powershell,cmd, batch and the whole windows ecosystem.
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:43 JST Rusty Crab

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     @KaiserKitty @Forestofenchantment fwiw windows has pretty good terminal support these days and you can install zsh natively. I haven't had to use cmd or powershell in ages
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:44 JST Rusty Crab

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     @KaiserKitty @Forestofenchantment POSIX with business grade software is good, yes. That's the only point I can't argue against.
     
     Though lack of gaming viability means I'd have to use a second device anyway.
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:45 JST Rusty Crab

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     @KaiserKitty @Forestofenchantment yeah I have no real complaint about their architecture because I've never used it. I only bring a bunch of skepticism because I know how apple fans get and I have pretty exceptional compute workloads that have historically highly inappropriate for mac capabilities (or any small form factor laptop for that matter). I also can't stand their ecosystem lockin.
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     KaiserKitty (kaiserkitty@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:45 JST KaiserKitty

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     @RustyCrab @Forestofenchantment I guess it depends on the type of workload. In the biomedical data world macs are king and handle all of the data manipulation and cpu heavy work loads I need but im not working with large codebases so I cant comment on that.
     
     Plus having a POSIX enviroment that also has native ports of mainstream bussiness and education apps is also invaluable to me.
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     KaiserKitty (kaiserkitty@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:46 JST KaiserKitty

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     @RustyCrab @Forestofenchantment I would never use a pre 2020 macbook. But now I have a m3 MBP and its so nice to not have a laptop trying to melt itself 24/7. It has a better cpu then any of my intel machines. The memory management is godly. The battery life is like 9-12 hours including me running R pipelines which take like 6 gb ram. Compilation is also pretty fast vs the linux HPC I ssh into (lots of R packages are just c/c++ and recompile with every update). I had to install windows on my intel laptop because the GPU was frying (I was getting tons of graphical issues which went away when I installed linux) due to the win11 bloat causing the fans to run 24/7.
     
     I told myself like a year ago I would never buy a macbook again after an awful experience with a 2013 air but holy fuck is Apple Silicon a godsend. The switch from intel to ARM is the biggest glowup in mainstream tech imo
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     KaiserKitty (kaiserkitty@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:47 JST KaiserKitty

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     @Forestofenchantment @RustyCrab Shit just doesnt get hot until you start reaching the 99% level then the MBP fans kick in
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:47 JST Rusty Crab

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     @KaiserKitty @Forestofenchantment I know it's not the same chip architecture, but the last macbook I had was awful. Thermal throttling constantly on daily tasks. It took 40 times longer to do the same compile job that my windows laptop did. All because "fans scare the hoes". I was already skeptical of macs but I'm far more so after that mess.
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     Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:19:48 JST Forest of Enchantment

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     @KaiserKitty @RustyCrab Will it still overheat to 110 C?
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:26:16 JST Rusty Crab

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     @KaiserKitty @Forestofenchantment I really do not like WSL. I always have weird issues in almost everything. Thankfully MOST things you use WSL for are actually possible in windows natively. The only trouble is finding out how to set them up getting past all the pajeet SEO spam about WSL.
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     KaiserKitty (kaiserkitty@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:26:17 JST KaiserKitty

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     @RustyCrab @Forestofenchantment When I was on windows I was always in WSL or conda. So I was like fuck it im just going to linux full time. i dont like winget or choclately compared to native linux package managers and brew on mac.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:45:15 JST Sick Sun

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     @RustyCrab @Forestofenchantment @KaiserKitty what about nuget
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:45:16 JST Rusty Crab

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     @KaiserKitty @Forestofenchantment yeah package management is basically non existent on windows. They tried to do it somewhat with windows store, but Microsoft is a piece of shit corrupt organization and you end up with stuff like "you need to pay $7 to install Python 3"
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     KaiserKitty (kaiserkitty@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 05:45:17 JST KaiserKitty

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     @RustyCrab @Forestofenchantment trying to manage command line programs with enviroment varibles in windows is just always worse then a nix system. For instance to use SRA-toolkit on windows I need to unzip the zip file of binaies. Keep it in a safe place. Make an enviroment varible alias for the binary.
     
     On Mac I just type brew install sra-toolkit and it handles all updates manually.