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   Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:09:36 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

   • Tek say resist

   @tek@freeradical.zone I'm not going to vote in this for what are probably obvious reasons, but I do want to see how this shakes out because honestly I don't know if I want to federate with bridgy users

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     Tek say resist (tek@freeradical.zone)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:09:35 JST Tek say resist

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     @pagrus I’m ok with it at a per-user level. I don’t mind if you use Bridgy as long as I don’t have to. Making it opt-out and instance-level was a bad launch. The new setup removes 90% of my objections.

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     Tek say resist (tek@freeradical.zone)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:30:40 JST Tek say resist

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     @pagrus Understood, and I have no desire to use it myself. Would it irk you if I did, though, and why? (Not intending to argue, more trying to think through the implications.)

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     Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:30:41 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

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     @tek@freeradical.zone that's your (and your users') call obviously, I just want no part of it. opt in makes it less of a dick move but the core concept is no different and that is what I object to

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     Tek say resist (tek@freeradical.zone)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:40:15 JST Tek say resist

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     @pagrus I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. I wouldn’t have a Twitter account today. I deleted mine a couple years ago and wouldn’t go back. Bluesky is distasteful to me but it’s not Twitter level bad, to the point I’d cut ties with a server that only permits users to talk to it.

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     Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:40:16 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

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     • Tek say resist

     @tek@freeradical.zone for me it's less a technical question and more like why would you? I think it indicates a fundamental disagreement on what belongs where. I don't want to interact with people who are pro-vc-backed federated social media if I can help it

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     Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:40:16 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

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     @tek@freeradical.zone I am with jwz on this one https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/11/i-prefer-to-meet-people-where-they-are-says-reasonable-sounding-white-dude-holding-court-at-a-table-in-the-back-of-a-nazi-bar/

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     Tek say resist (tek@freeradical.zone)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:43:00 JST Tek say resist

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     @pagrus I hear that. So one option would be to allow the connection to Bridgy but limit it to contain the spread.

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     Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:43:01 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

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     @tek@freeradical.zone in other words if I wanted to look at bluesky shit I would just go to fucking bluesky

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     Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:43:02 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

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     @tek@freeradical.zone I think Ro makes some good points wrt people being attracted to bluesky for different reasons, and I certainly don't begrudge them those spaces. but they are also not trying to bring it here into my feed

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     Tek say resist (tek@freeradical.zone)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:54:04 JST Tek say resist

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     @pagrus If I were a single user instance, I wouldn’t. I don’t want or need it. Some people here have asked for it though, and its new opt-in policy changes my thinking a lot.

     There are some positive effects, too. If someone here wants to follow one specific account there, they’d be able to without making an account on it. That seems helpful.

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     Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:54:05 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

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     • Tek say resist

     @tek@freeradical.zone I will say for the record that I appreciate your transparency here, and I am probably/possibly more hardline than most. but yeah if you open that can of worms I don't want anything to do with it

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     Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:54:05 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

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     @tek@freeradical.zone and my only question is why would you want to? what do you gain by allowing it now? or ever?

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     Hagfish fancier v4.02 (pagrus@tears.intherain.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 04:54:06 JST Hagfish fancier v4.02

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     @tek@freeradical.zone I guess? I don't know honestly, and I think undefederating bridgy at all would be enough for me to want to keep my distance