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    Tiago Peixoto (tiago@social.skewed.de)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 16:01:44 JST Tiago Peixoto Tiago Peixoto
    • Cory Doctorow

    Some hard truths from @pluralistic: https://doctorow.medium.com/https-pluralistic-net-2024-11-02-ulysses-pact-tie-yourself-to-a-federated-mast-b2f89bb5b4d8

    It misses only one fact: Mastodon was born shitified!

    I still believe (maybe naively) that the free software principles are strong and people will eventually unshitiffy it. But this hurdle will cost it a unique moment in history.

    In conversation Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 16:01:44 JST from social.skewed.de permalink

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      Tiago Peixoto (tiago@social.skewed.de)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 16:18:21 JST Tiago Peixoto Tiago Peixoto
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      • Moritz Poldrack :arch:

      @mpldr @pluralistic The exact same features that keep people away and are driving the mass migration to BlueSky instead of here. This platform has too many restrictions, which makes it more difficult to have meaningful interactions.

      For example:

      1. The purely sequential timeline means you miss a lot of relevant posts, and it's much harder to keep track of the important conversations.

      2. The lack of quotes means you can't link or make references to what others say.

      This platform added federation, but unnecessarily removed a lot a features that existed on twitter, instead of improving on them.

      Instead of fearing "the algorithm", mastodon should have given the option for users and instances to control the algorithm of their own feed.

      Bluesky added the option to "detach" a quote from a post if it turns out it's getting unwanted attention. A simpler, more elegant solution to the (frankly, exaggerated) potential abuse problem, than simply not having quotes at all.

      In short, there's less friction there, and here it feels like a pain.

      In conversation Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 16:18:21 JST permalink

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      Moritz Poldrack :arch: (mpldr@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 16:18:22 JST Moritz Poldrack :arch: Moritz Poldrack :arch:
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      @tiago @pluralistic What part of it would you consider shitified?

      In conversation Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 16:18:22 JST permalink
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      Tiago Peixoto (tiago@social.skewed.de)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 17:19:55 JST Tiago Peixoto Tiago Peixoto
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      • kai :)
      • Moritz Poldrack :arch:

      @kawie @mpldr @pluralistic

      Of course I read the article.

      Can't you really understand my argument?

      I obviously don't mean that Mastodon is locked in, only that it's a shitty experience.

      That's a perfectly valid use of the term "enshitified", and underlies the general problem.

      In conversation Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 17:19:55 JST permalink
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      kai :) (kawie@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 17:19:56 JST kai :) kai :)
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      • Moritz Poldrack :arch:

      @tiago @mpldr @pluralistic that is not what „shitified“ means. did you read the article?

      In conversation Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 17:19:56 JST permalink
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      Moritz Poldrack :arch: (mpldr@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 00:35:18 JST Moritz Poldrack :arch: Moritz Poldrack :arch:
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      • kai :)

      @tiago @kawie @pluralistic I would differ on the "enshittified". To me it has a very clear connotation regarding surveillance capitalism and the gradual decline of product quality. Not having a shitty experience from the get-go. But thanks for clearing up how you're using the term :)

      In conversation Friday, 15-Nov-2024 00:35:18 JST permalink
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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 00:35:18 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      • Moritz Poldrack :arch:

      @mpldr @tiago @kawie

      I'm on the record on this:

      https://pluralistic.net/2024/10/14/pearl-clutching/#this-toilet-has-no-central-nervous-system

      In conversation Friday, 15-Nov-2024 00:35:18 JST permalink

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