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   Dan Gillmor (dangillmor@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 12:44:42 JST Dan Gillmor

   I want to share your article, but if you embed posts from Twitter I won't do it.

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 12:44:42 JST jwz

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     @dangillmor My experience is that any article with Twitter embeds isn't an article at all, it's a "some people are saying" listicle. I might as well be watching a local weatherman doing man-on-the-street interviews about how wet the rain is.

     "Nothing of value was lost", in other words.

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     Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 (riotnrrd@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 15:34:30 JST Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

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     • jwz

     @jwz @dangillmor I did embed Twitter posts in some old posts on my blog (and went through and replaced them all with screenshots a while back), but that was usually because one particular tweet or thread prompted more than a tweet’s worth of reply.
     Still doing that *now*, though? Oof. That’s a choice.
     I have wondered vaguely about embedding toots, but haven’t had the need yet.

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 15:39:37 JST jwz

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     • Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

     @riotnrrd @dangillmor The way you "embed" a Mastodon post is by using the <a> and <blockquote> tags.

     And that's how you should have done it with Twitter as well, but Blockchain Rasputin wanted to you serve back that tasty, tasty iframe surveillance data.

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 15:40:55 JST jwz

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     • Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

     @riotnrrd @dangillmor I literally never saw that back and forth happening. As soon as a twit was embedded in a mainstream media article, the "discourse" turned into YouTube comments. That embed made that twit a sacrifice zone. A commentariat Superfund site.

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     Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 (riotnrrd@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 15:40:56 JST Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

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     • jwz

     @jwz @dangillmor That is one of the things that I miss about Old Twitter: it was sort of a universal comment section for the Web, and the conversation moved fairly seamlessly back and forth: news article prompted tweet thread, reply prompted in-depth blog post, post was shared and discussed in further threads, and so on. The universality is the big thing that I miss.

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     Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 (riotnrrd@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 17:53:27 JST Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

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     • jwz

     @jwz @dangillmor I didn’t use the official iframe; my then-host had a custom Markdown embed. It still sends some tracking info (see e.g. here from my old site pre-migration https://findthethread.postach.io/post/twitter-of-babel) but on the other hand I miss that it made it easier to embed replies. That’s what I meant beyond simply linking and quoting. Sometimes the tweet/toot on its own doesn’t give full context.

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     Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 (riotnrrd@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 17:54:54 JST Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

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     • jwz

     @jwz @dangillmor Absolutely true, and that is I think one reason behind today’s announcement by the Guardian that they are (finally) leaving Twitter. The other big factor is of course that with the way that Twitter suppresses links, it no longer gives any boost to reach, so why would a news org bother?