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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 05:04:50 JST clacke People who illustrate descending sort order with an arrow pointing up please go hide in the corner and stop designing user interfaces. - anban and Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} like this.
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Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 16:52:59 JST Thomas @clacke I once saw an indicator with a visible rainbow: red through blue for one sort order, blue though red for the other
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Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 16:53:06 JST Elias Mårtenson It's even more weird than the completely joke one I just thought up: a picture of a coin where heads is sort ascending and tals being descending.
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 16:53:17 JST clacke (cue the dozens of screenshots showing me how horribly inconsistent this was already in the 90s, and specifically how it was actually inconsistent between the three mentioned) 😅 -
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 16:53:18 JST clacke @hypolite I kind of get where they're coming from, values go up as you go up maybe? But it doesn't match the word. And I don't go up from the column header. Or maybe they mean that the uppiest value comes just after the header.
Whatever they mean, it doesn't work for me and it's not how I remember any of this iconography being in the 90s. Whether you were in Excel, Lotus Notes or Explorer, I'm pretty sure up was ascending and down was descending.
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hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 16:53:19 JST hypolite @clacke But it’s technically correct! -
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hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 19:25:10 JST hypolite @clacke What do you think about the sorted bar stacks, with the longer bar at the top for decreasing and the longer bar at the bottom for increasing?
I personally have had trouble with arrows when the column is a date field. For me the decreasing date field is actually increasing age, so like USB sticks I need to try both directions before finally settling on the one I need.
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 19:25:18 JST clacke > What do you think about the sorted bar stacks, with the longer bar at the top for decreasing and the longer bar at the bottom for increasing?
@hypolite Sounds intuitive! Maybe it's because it's so intuitive that I don't remember ever seeing one, like a good movie soundtrack you don't remember hearing. 😊
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 19:25:20 JST clacke If the icon is "a..z" with an arrow up through it, I suppose that makes unambiguous sense as "ascending as you go up", i.e. descending order.
So then I don't have a logical complaint, only my complaint that my conditioning tells me the arrow should be the other way.