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   AI6YR Ben (ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 13:28:46 JST AI6YR Ben

   Learning in all the bike history books I am reading that bicycles were basically the gateway drug to automobiles, and all the bicycle clubs were the predecessors to auto clubs in the early 1900's. 🤔

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     AI6YR Ben (ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 13:28:44 JST AI6YR Ben

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     • sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

     @tomjennings @sanae We have entire city blocks which are paved... parking, streets, parking, more parking. It's like 90% of the land is asphalt.

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     tom jennings (tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 13:28:45 JST tom jennings

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     • sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

     @sanae @ai6yr

     Oh modern bicycles' success most definitely depends on smooth paved roads. Of course they need far less of it!

     Just today I drove through this intersection, one road meetign another at a 45 degree angle, and marvelled out loud and the vast amount of asphalted space that intersection required. IT'S INSANE.

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     sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF) (sanae@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 13:28:46 JST sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

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     @ai6yr unfortunately also I heard that bikes lead to paved asphalt roads, which lead to automobiles (at least that was true in SF)