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   Patricia Aas (patricia@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 21:22:46 JST Patricia Aas

   Saw a YouTube short asking Kamala voters if they would date a Trump voter, and all the women go:

   Eh, no. This is a person who has literally voted to put me at risk.

   One white guy: sure! We need to tolerate that people have different opinions.

   That right there.

   Harm that doesn’t happen to you.
   You can tolerate it because it doesn’t happen to you.

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 21:22:43 JST kaia

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     • Kyle Montanio
     @FantasticalEconomics
     apologies for jumping into this. this is completely not for me to tell you or your partner what to do.
     
     I just want to point out how important grandparents can be for early child development. it would be sad if political differences created a rift that affects children for the rest of their lives.
     
     Source e.g.:
     Del Boca, Daniela; Piazzalunga, Daniela; Pronzato, Chiara D. : Early Child Care and Child Outcomes: The Role of Grandparents
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     Kyle Montanio (fantasticaleconomics@geekdom.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 21:22:44 JST Kyle Montanio

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     @Patricia

     My vocally Trump supporting grandparent-in-laws are, somehow, shocked my partner, my partner who's pregnant with our first child, is considering breaking contact with them over this.

     I fully understand cutting off any who is increasing the, already substantial, risk women face from men by activity helping elect a rapist president.

     I'm not sure the right really realizes how not-joking women are when talking about bear safety.

     #4B

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     Patricia Aas (patricia@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 21:22:45 JST Patricia Aas

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     • Kyle Montanio

     @FantasticalEconomics given how dangerous pregnancy is becoming I understand that sentiment, an accidental pregnancy could kill you

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     Kyle Montanio (fantasticaleconomics@geekdom.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 21:22:46 JST Kyle Montanio

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     @Patricia

     Some are considering dropping men entirely. Which like, fair.

     “Now that we don’t need a man for anything, and men continue to actively take our rights away, we’re just like, ‘OK, we’re just not going to deal with you.'”

     The #4BMovement taking off in force in the US would send a powerful message, just saying. Worth looking into and how it's working in South Korea, at the very least, so I'm glad it's trending on The TikTok.

     https://www.nbcnews.com/news/4b-movement-south-korea-inspires-american-women-trump-reelection-rcna179143

     #4B

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     Kyle Montanio (fantasticaleconomics@geekdom.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 21:46:20 JST Kyle Montanio

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     • kaia

     @kaia

     No apologies needed for making a polite suggestion :)

     That said, I don't think it's good advice, particularly not in our situation. Our kid will be lucky enough to have four loving grandparents, cutting them off from the great-grandparents wouldn't be a big loss.

     More generally, I'm confident there is plenty of research showing that getting rid of toxic relationships - which this very much is for some - has a lot of value, and may outweigh potential benefits of grandparents.

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