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   ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 02:51:48 JST ?Hidden?
   At times, I feel like a tiny helpless mote trying to stand against all of entropy. If this universe is nothing but an endless domino effect of karma, consequences fractally expanding outwards eternally until the universe fades away, I want to stand against that and bring something good into the world, somehow, even if it lasts only a moment.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 02:51:47 JST georgia

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     @hidden the universe isnt just the effects of individual jivas karma playing out. It is all the workings of Gods Will and God is often gracious.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 02:53:12 JST georgia

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     @J @hidden thats literally nonsense, do Buddhists really
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     Niggy Hardare (j@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 02:53:13 JST Niggy Hardare

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     @hidden Dw kitten. Nirvana and Samsara indwell each other. All permanent things indwell the impermanent and vice versa. Daddy will take care of your vote for you.

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     ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 02:53:50 JST ?Hidden?

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     @georgia That’s how it feels in my own life, my faith is rewarded often, although always in unexpected ways. But the people around me seem to be struggling with something impossible, so I try to share the burden but nothing I do seems to make much of an impact.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 02:54:55 JST georgia

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     @hidden you could always pray for them if you aren't already.
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     ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 02:59:59 JST ?Hidden?

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     @georgia I volunteer at a soup kitchen but everyone I feed is still homeless. I help my ex-prostitute friend with paper work and finding a home and managing illness but she’s still mostly helpless other than working a job. It’s all an infinite battle, and I’m thankful that I could help, I just wish I could do more than put a pause to a downward trend.
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     ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:00:13 JST ?Hidden?

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     @georgia I could. I guess I never even thought about it since I try to do everything myself
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:22:41 JST georgia

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     • Niggy Hardare
     @J @hidden this is what happens when you have no (nirguna or saguna) Brahman or permanent unchanging Atman in your philosophy. I like the Bhagavad Gita's take better.
     
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     Niggy Hardare (j@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:22:42 JST Niggy Hardare

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     @georgia @hidden It’s a split in Buddhist scholasticism between old Abhidharma (now only surviving in Theravada Buddhism) and Mahayana (China and Tibet) what I said is Nagarjuna’s position bc I’m reading him rn.

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     Niggy Hardare (j@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:30:24 JST Niggy Hardare

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     @georgia @hidden I agree that it’s nonsense, I’m a firm believer in real hierarchy, but if you take the emptiness doctrine beyond the 5 aggregates then you do wind up having to say things like that.

     Daoism has a lot of similar unifications of opposites though, not too crazy in the broad scope of Eastern philosophy.

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     ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:38:51 JST ?Hidden?

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     @druid Yes, perhaps it’s good to just trust in what I know is right. Although it may not seem so in front of my eyes, i know the universe is inherently just in some manner, and I can keep heart knowing that what I do will ripple to somewhere far away, whether it’s the next cycle in this every revolving wheel or somewhere else unknown.
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     Druid (druid@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:38:52 JST Druid

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     @hidden To make an impact on the next kalpa....
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     ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:40:45 JST ?Hidden?

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     @mischievoustomato @druid It’s true, but also horrible to say out loud because so many insane unjust things happen all the time. Both are true simultaneously
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     Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:40:46 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!

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     @hidden @druid > universe is inherently just in some manner
     > universe is inherently just in some manner
     > universe is inherently just in some manner

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     Druid (druid@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:55:09 JST Druid

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     @hidden Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost. Everything you do matters. ❤️
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:59:38 JST georgia

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     @J @hidden Sunyata might be based in Hindu thought but Hindu thought considers the Atman to be permanent and unchanging, in most cases the Brahman literally or an atomic part of God. That was my point.
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     Niggy Hardare (j@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 03:59:39 JST Niggy Hardare

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     @georgia @hidden Nagarjuna’s emptiness view is informed by Hindu (or proto-Hindu, depending how you want to divide the history) philosophy. That’s not the difference.

     The classical Buddhist Abhidharma accounts for this. The awareness that persists is permanent, it’s called Sankhara, but that can’t be properly called “you” because the aggregates come in 5, and they change between incarnations.

     If you have the same conscious stream, but a different brain, different sense organs, no memories retained, is the thing that persists to a new life “you”?

     In some conventional sense, you can say there’s continuity. But it’s not the same “self.” The affirmation of the continuity, though, is why it’s called the “Middle Way.”

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     ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 04:06:16 JST ?Hidden?

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     @druid Thank you. I actually really needed to hear that. It’s easy to lose sight of sometimes. 😭 Gonna make me tear up
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 04:20:24 JST georgia

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     @J @hidden yeah I definitely think Sunyata should be limited and not posited as an underlying ontological description of reality.
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     Niggy Hardare (j@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 04:20:25 JST Niggy Hardare

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     @georgia @hidden I know the position, I think your point is that without grounding an Atman in Brahman, a collapse in hierarchy is inevitable.

     I’m pointing out that this isn’t true IF you stick to orthodox Buddhist Abhidharma, which provides an account for how you preserve hierarchy and continuity without needing to “divinize” personhood itself. You can think of it like chemical reactions, carbon is the consciousness aggregate and links to different combinations of the other 4 aggregates.

     There’s still room underneath that to posit something Aristotelian linking those aggregates together bc sunyata is very limited in scope in the older schools. It only refers to the fact that incarnate things are made of composite base materials, and the configuration changes in such ways that you can’t identify a permanent self.

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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 04:21:48 JST georgia

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     @J @hidden in Hinduism the experience of emptiness/void in meditation is called Bhairava