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    Tony Stark (tonystark@progressivecafe.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 03:36:02 JST Tony Stark Tony Stark

    Some people always say Democrats should learn how to talk to the "white working class", but they never say how Democrats are supposed to do that, or give examples of what to say.

    Here’s why.

    They think Democrats should abandon liberal social/racial concerns and the people attached to them for a white "working class" male chauvinist populism.

    What Bernie Sanders is always pushing is a white "working class" line which is every bit as zero-sum as Trumpism.

    Not gonna link it. Fuck off, Bernie.

    In conversation about 6 months ago from progressivecafe.social permalink
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      MJ (mj@progressivecafe.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 03:35:54 JST MJ MJ
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      • Grassroots Joe

      @joeinwynnewood @TonyStark It’s not a messaging problem.

      Election results: There was only one big question. We just got a terrifying answer.

      https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-wins-2024-election-president-harris-loss.html

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
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      Grassroots Joe (joeinwynnewood@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 03:35:55 JST Grassroots Joe Grassroots Joe
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      @TonyStark

      They produce a several dozen ads during the campaign using the messaging framework all available at https://www.amplify-freedom.com/

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink

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      Mr. Bill repeated this.
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      Grassroots Joe (joeinwynnewood@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 03:35:56 JST Grassroots Joe Grassroots Joe
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      @TonyStark

      The underlying basis is not short, but the messaging Anat Shenker-Osorio, the key player in that consortium, and her colleagues create based on it is.

      If you look at their Freedom Over Fascism toolkit, you'll see that very brief and concise messages can be employed as well as slightly longer ones, say for 30 to 60 second ads are "easy" (for them) to construct, and certainly easy for us to repeat, and repeat, and repeat.
      It's the repetition that's the key
      https://bit.ly/FreedomOverFascism

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink

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      Tony Stark (tonystark@progressivecafe.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 03:35:58 JST Tony Stark Tony Stark
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      • Grassroots Joe

      @joeinwynnewood I’m curious if there’s any way to make this a whole lot shorter if it’s a branding problem. I don’t mean that in an aggressive way. Just seems like maybe that’s part of the problem.

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
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      Grassroots Joe (joeinwynnewood@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 03:35:59 JST Grassroots Joe Grassroots Joe
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      @TonyStark

      It's fundamentally a branding problem.
      People believe all manner of things that are not true.
      The reality of the line not being right-left or conservative-liberal and especially not "real Americans" vs. "others", but rather wealthy reactionary elites vs working people is almost nowhere in what we have been saying to the voting public since FDR, who did say it.
      But it is in the messaging the folks I point to in my thread produce and whose material I've been posting here.

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
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      Tony Stark (tonystark@progressivecafe.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 03:36:00 JST Tony Stark Tony Stark
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      • Grassroots Joe

      @joeinwynnewood I don’t mind at all. I probably don’t have deep thoughts on anything at the moment because I’m tired and so forth.

      I have yet to speak directly to anyone who ended up not voting. I have heard from more than one who feels the party has moved too far left and lost them. So one can blame that on disinformation or not.

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
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      Grassroots Joe (joeinwynnewood@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 03:36:01 JST Grassroots Joe Grassroots Joe
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      @TonyStark

      Tony - I just put up a thread that includes my thoughts on why and how we need to talk to everyone in America if we are to have any chance at turning this country around (including a preface of my amateur, if hopefully well informed, opinion on how yesterday happened).

      I hope you don't mind if I link to it here. (If you do, please let me know and I'll take it down).

      https://mstdn.social/@joeinwynnewood/113439143571030190

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink

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