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    rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:38:30 JST rose  :v_lesbian::v_trans:  (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ)

    what do you MEAN appimage still uses fuse 2 what the actual fuck

    In conversation about 7 months ago from eepy.moe permalink

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      anna (navi@social.vlhl.dev)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:38:27 JST anna anna
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      @rose because i've come to realize that 90% of devs don't seem to understand how build systems work

      also even on languages you can't statically link (e.g. python), you can still ship a wrapper script that `LD_PRELOAD`'s, and then ship the libs itself on the tarball
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:38:28 JST rose  :v_lesbian::v_trans:  (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ)
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      @navi@social.vlhl.dev i unironically do not understand why we need appimages when you can just use a statically compiled executable in a tarball

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      anna (navi@social.vlhl.dev)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:38:30 JST anna anna
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      @rose yeeeeep.

      appimages, neat concept for preservation, actually a joke in practice -- the dev kinda ran it into the ground
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:42:23 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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      @rose @navi Best is AppImage doesn't even do static, it's just an executable archive with a runtime target, you still need devs and their utter lack of system knowledge to figure what they need to ship in said archive.

      And well the decompressor isn't a static executable, so for things like scripts and static executables like with Java/Go/Rust/… you're loosing in portability.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      anna (navi@social.vlhl.dev)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:37 JST anna anna
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      @rose i look away from any software that says "just use the flatpak"

      because i 9/10 times they're aggressive towards distros, thinking distros are the devil for taking control over software distribution away from devs or something
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:38 JST rose  :v_lesbian::v_trans:  (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ)
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      @navi@social.vlhl.dev at least flatpak has some extra benefits like sandboxing

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:38 JST rose  :v_lesbian::v_trans:  (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ)
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      • anna

      @navi@social.vlhl.dev though with flatpak right now it often is either supporting flatpak or "native" linux, which really sucks when trying to package for distros that dont have flatpak

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      anna (navi@social.vlhl.dev)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:39 JST anna anna
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      @rose bc appimages had someone going "use this! it'll make your app run anywhere with a single executable!!", and if you swap some words in there, it's the same sales pitch flatpak does

      aka, don't build apps properly, don't understand your target platform, just "trust us!"
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:40 JST rose  :v_lesbian::v_trans:  (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ)
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      • anna

      @navi@social.vlhl.dev devs would really rather understand the garbage tooling that's appimage instead of figuring out their build system,,

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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