what do you MEAN appimage still uses fuse 2 what the actual fuck
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rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:38:30 JST rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) -
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anna (navi@social.vlhl.dev)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:38:27 JST anna @rose because i've come to realize that 90% of devs don't seem to understand how build systems work
also even on languages you can't statically link (e.g. python), you can still ship a wrapper script that `LD_PRELOAD`'s, and then ship the libs itself on the tarballHaelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:38:28 JST rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) @navi@social.vlhl.dev i unironically do not understand why we need appimages when you can just use a statically compiled executable in a tarball
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anna (navi@social.vlhl.dev)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:38:30 JST anna @rose yeeeeep.
appimages, neat concept for preservation, actually a joke in practice -- the dev kinda ran it into the ground -
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:42:23 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: @rose @navi Best is AppImage doesn't even do static, it's just an executable archive with a runtime target, you still need devs and their utter lack of system knowledge to figure what they need to ship in said archive.
And well the decompressor isn't a static executable, so for things like scripts and static executables like with Java/Go/Rust/… you're loosing in portability. -
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anna (navi@social.vlhl.dev)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:37 JST anna @rose i look away from any software that says "just use the flatpak"
because i 9/10 times they're aggressive towards distros, thinking distros are the devil for taking control over software distribution away from devs or somethingHaelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:38 JST rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) @navi@social.vlhl.dev at least flatpak has some extra benefits like sandboxing
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rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:38 JST rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) @navi@social.vlhl.dev though with flatpak right now it often is either supporting flatpak or "native" linux, which really sucks when trying to package for distros that dont have flatpak
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anna (navi@social.vlhl.dev)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:39 JST anna @rose bc appimages had someone going "use this! it'll make your app run anywhere with a single executable!!", and if you swap some words in there, it's the same sales pitch flatpak does
aka, don't build apps properly, don't understand your target platform, just "trust us!" -
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rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) (rose@eepy.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 05:43:40 JST rose :v_lesbian::v_trans: (◠ᴥ◕ʋ) @navi@social.vlhl.dev devs would really rather understand the garbage tooling that's appimage instead of figuring out their build system,,
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