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   Egon Willigh☮gen (egonw@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 06:15:15 JST Egon Willigh☮gen

   "The attack on the Archive has crippled BHL (parts are slowly coming back). I think this is time for a fundamental rethink in how BHL manages its data, its processing pipeline, and how it serves images." -- https://iphylo.blogspot.com/2024/10/internet-archive-as-single-point-of.html

   #internetArchive #vandalism

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 06:15:15 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @egonw About time for the Smithsonian (an entity with a 1090 M$ budget) to contribute more to the #InternetArchive (30 M$).

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 16:18:55 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @egonw I think we're just leeches so far. The main IA-supporting European entity is BetterWorldBooks in Scotland. Perhaps archive-it has some institutional customers here but I'm not sure. Wikimedia should contribute by facilitating book donations at least, they're a very direct way to help Wikimedia projects users.

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     Egon Willigh☮gen (egonw@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 16:18:56 JST Egon Willigh☮gen

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis do you know of the relation between #internetArchive and Europe? Is there a mirror here? does Europe contribute to the sustainability in some way?

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 16:28:19 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @egonw The number of former library books in the BWB-provided IA scans suggests that either BWB or some of their partners received tens or hundreds of thousands of books deaccessioned by Dutch libraries https://archive.org/details/internetarchivebooks?sort=-publicdate&and%5B%5D=language%3A%22Dutch%22 and of course there's the recent Leiden university donation https://blog.archive.org/2024/10/08/internet-archive-to-receive-400000-dissertations-from-leiden-university/ but that also goes in the direction of outsourcing library activities to the IA without correspondingly adjusting the budgets.

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 17:43:16 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     • Sam Wilson

     @samwilson I don't mind the collections being inaccessible for a few weeks. After all, copyright forces us to keep most collections inaccessible for over a century anyway. I'm more worried about the stressed and stretched IA staff. Months spent on firefighting will eat on current projects and potentially cause long-term burnouts. Think #InternetArchiveScholar for example, an extremely powerful service for #OpenScience. As the grant money ended, we can't expect IA to subsidise it much.

     @egonw

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     Egon Willigh☮gen (egonw@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 17:43:18 JST Egon Willigh☮gen

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis indeed. I guess "in kind" contribution do matter too, but the Internet Archive seems to be too important #openInfrastructure to allow to be crippled for days

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     Sam Wilson (samwilson@wikis.world)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 17:43:18 JST Sam Wilson

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     @egonw @nemobis True. But I also think the IA's ethos of "preservation before availability" is being played out at the moment. My impression is that they're more likely than many sites to not mind having reduced services for weeks (if it's seen as necessary), because ultimately what they're concerned with is the long term. As someone who uploads items there, that makes me happy.