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   cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:11 JST cool_boy_mew
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:05 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • demonofustio
     @Elliptica @demonofustio which is why we need to return to a separate internet, smaller forums, etc. Because botting is basically already only doable on "everyone ever: the platform" like Twitter, and astroturfing would also then lose all of its value if everyone is dispersed along 1000s of sites instead of 15ish sites
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     Anime Wong (elliptica@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:06 JST Anime Wong

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     @coolboymew @demonofustio >bro, you only need a single schizo being weirdly persistent, that's literally all you need.
     
     I know, but what I've seen people show is examples of "I have a zero follower account on something, I say something on a hot button issue to no one, or I say something that uses a bunch of buzz words, but as a jumbled incoherent mess, and then seconds later I have 3 or 4 accounts all using similar canned responses".
     
     Like, that's proof of bots, or low income Indians, Israelis, or Chinese paid to search for key words and then reply with specific canned quotes. This is well documented (though maybe it's not as pervasive as just a year ago, or it's more subtle now). We also have the receipts from companies like Logically who were paid to do this sort of stuff. Sure, more popular things are not bots (again using internet celebrities as an example), but there are lots of these fake accounts and all they do is go around sewing discord trying to make you look discredited. But this also implies that a lot of the incidental content you do see online (like the NAFO stuff from a few years back) is likely astroturfed as well. Maybe it's not 100% bots, but it never needed to be.
     
     Anyway, I feel like we're probably talking passed each other, or we're both sort of saying the same thing but in different ways, idk.
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:06 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • demonofustio
     @Elliptica @demonofustio Okay, but, again, Twitter is ACTUALLY botted. I never contested this
     
     Also Reddit is also actively AstroTurfed and we knew for ages. There's literally an article about that today
     https://archive.is/y6cwF
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     Anime Wong (elliptica@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:07 JST Anime Wong

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     • demonofustio
     @coolboymew @demonofustio Again, I'm not sure I buy that it's as simple as "people being annoying. Yeah, yeah, copypasta, but you can tell the difference between that an people using the same exact adjectives to describe things. Maybe everyone landed on "triumphant return to form for bioware"... but were there seriously no reviews that were like "it's a return to form, if that form was Mass Effect: Andromeda"?
     
     I think it's as simple as:
     
     >Review companies want to make money by getting access to popular or anticipated games early
     >Companies that publish games also want to get money off good sales
     >Companies that publish games force companies that review games to adhere to certain style guides and have "toxic positive" reviews.
     
     Meanwhile, organic reviews from normal people are not impossible to find, but they don't impact the fabled metacritic score much if at all, and if you say too many negatives things you will be deplatformed. Maybe this isn't the dead internet the schizos wanted, but it's the dead internet we got.
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:07 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • demonofustio
     @Elliptica @demonofustio bro, you only need a single schizo being weirdly persistent, that's literally all you need. As said, we literally saw this on gamefaqs. We had the butt fetishist making similar thread about slightly different girls for over 10 fucking years now
     
     "Would someone really do that?" Yes, yes they would
     
     >Maybe everyone landed on "triumphant return to form for bioware"... but were there seriously no reviews that were like "it's a return to form, if that form was Mass Effect: Andromeda"?
     
     No idea, go check yourself but it seems obvious that EA mandated some big review box to shit out a canned line
     
     >I think it's as simple as these review companies want to make money by getting access to popular or anticipated games early > Companies that publish games also want to get money off good sales > Companies that publish games force companies that review games to adhere to certain style guides and have "toxic positive" reviews
     
     We've known that for years bro, but we've also known that game companies literally pay for advert and advert campaign on game review websites. All of this is nothing new
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     Anime Wong (elliptica@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:08 JST Anime Wong

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     @coolboymew @demonofustio I don't really think it's totally schizo nonsense, at least not anymore.
     
     Go on websites like twitter with accounts that have zero followers and write something simple, directed at no one like, "I think covid is fake". You'd get a dozen of "first name + bunch'a numbers" accounts screaming at you. Same with literally any other hot button issue. Where did these accounts come from? Idk, certainly not from companies like Logically AI who were paid by governments and had back door access to social media sites to look for people talking about certain things and then deploying bots to try and shutdown the discussion.
     
     On the other end, maybe someone like Mr. Beast isn't an AI generated person, but he isn't organic. The modern internet is an illusion of user generated content (and has for about a decade now), but for the most part it's all really just corporate content pretending to be user generated, or ads for things you should buy.
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:08 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • demonofustio
     @Elliptica @demonofustio It might not be "anymore", but even that is debateable. "Everyone ever: The website" is a bad idea from the get go, and anywhere else smaller, we'd notice very quickly if some AI gets in. A paid shill would be generally more likely in most other cases
     
     But otherwise, the theory was absolutely schizo nonsense and the post was too stupid to really "predict" anything
     
     "Bruh, why are there the same threads posted again and again" we caught several of these on Gamefaqs, they just do it to be annoying, see the responses over and over again. It's actually that fucking simple in the end
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:09 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • demonofustio
     @demonofustio First, the theory was schizo nonsense in the year it was written
     
     Second, this is very much obviously not random review bots, but reviews from actual nameable outlets with an official review from their website
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:10 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @demonofustio what are you even talking about
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     demonofustio (demonofustio@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:10 JST demonofustio

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     @coolboymew "Dead internet theory"
     And review bots being used to generate fake reviews on the forums to paints something that is good when it isnt.
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     demonofustio (demonofustio@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:57:11 JST demonofustio

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     @coolboymew The "dead internet theory". The idea the internets actually dead and everything in it is fake. 90% of all traffic is all generated by ai whoch was launched against iran back in 2007. Ever since the ai developed by the us and israel been evolving into a self learning ai capable of communication, deception, dating, and other stuff.
     
     Today that same cyber bug used to flood the iranian server is still active. Dumping all its self copy data as internet user profile, pics, and keeping the internet active which paints the illusion the internet is active. But in reality. Its actually dead.
     
     
     Hence the dead internet theory.
     
     (Same goes for review bots.)