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   LukeAlmighty (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:19:27 JST LukeAlmighty

   The most insane thing about the population collapse is, that most people care only because our retirement system isn't ready for it.

   That's really it? Is that why you care?

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     Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:25:42 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     @LukeAlmighty It will presumably bounce back in the long term, so short term consequences are of course more worrying. Or is that bot what you mean?
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     LukeAlmighty (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:25:42 JST LukeAlmighty

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     @Jens_Rasmussen
     I don't get your question. What will bounce back? The population or the retirement system?

     Well, my point is, that we don't value the life itself. Neither as an experience, nor as an entity worth protecting. These people literally see a livetime production dollar amount. That is not what should be protected. That is not what it means to be alive.

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     mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:34:57 JST mysterious rika

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     Also take into account that people had more kids because child mortality was very high. Today in the west child mortality is basically non existent
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     LukeAlmighty (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:34:57 JST LukeAlmighty

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     @RikaDerufu
     This is stupid argument. A birthrate below 2 is not a sustainable model, no matter how healthy the 1.4 kid actually are.

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     mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:34:58 JST mysterious rika

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     I mean, this happened before and it always happens when a civilization reaches a plateau in their growth.
     People in the west started having less kids in the 70s so it's normal that there are less births now, because there are also objectively less people.
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     LukeAlmighty (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:35:49 JST LukeAlmighty

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     @Jens_Rasmussen
     I hate that they chose to betray their nation just because it was easy.

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     Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:35:50 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     @LukeAlmighty The population will bounce back I mean, and by extention also the retirement system.
     
     As for something other than money being protected; everyone understands that being in a healthy economy rather than a broke one is conductive to a life that makes you enjoy being alive.
     On the other hand; not much is being done to fix the population issue exactly because people's freedom is being respected.
     Our incompetent leaders still have to figure out a solution to the problem though, and replacement migration seems to be their chosen one.
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     mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:37:19 JST mysterious rika

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     The low births problem it's a big problem mostly because we created a society in which you can be expected to live 90+ years while also being a total burden on the system because now retirement homes exist. So you have like a few amount of working adults having to pay for the healthcare of millions who should just be dead if our culture wasn't obsessed with preserving life even when it's essentially not life anymore
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     Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:39:01 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     @RikaDerufu @LukeAlmighty Total boomer death.
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     mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:55:03 JST mysterious rika

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     Going to a retirement home ONCE some months ago totally blackpilled me to the point of no return.
     90% of those people were in a literal comatose state with eyes open, most of them couldn't even talk.
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     LukeAlmighty (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 19:59:57 JST LukeAlmighty

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     @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen
     I heard, that in some civilizations, it used to be an honor to leave by your own hand, once you were no longer able to live on your own properly.

     And at this point, I believe that might actually be the only solution. Because we are getting trapped into a technologivcally enabled insanity.

     Each advancement of medical science enables us to give old people more time alive at an ever increasing cost. Yes, the healthcare of young does become better too, but if we manage to unlock 2 more years for a million, all it does is increase the ammount of people who need that million dollar healthcare.... only so they ask for 2 more years for 5 mil.

     It is an eternal cycle of more people needing more money for worse few years of life.

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     applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2: (applejack@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 20:08:59 JST applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:

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     @LukeAlmighty I find it more insane that we choose a system like democracy with short term incentives and people only care about hotfixing the symptoms