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   :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 28-Oct-2024 23:49:36 JST :ihavenomouth:
   a measurement system created and maintained by a committee which arbitrarily redefines the units to be impossible to replicate or verify yourself is as proprietary as it gets
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 28-Oct-2024 23:52:53 JST Rusty Crab

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     @Inginsub imperial is open source because everyone has feet
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 00:22:06 JST 翠星石

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     @Inginsub The committee only ever redefines the units to improve the accuracy and provides everything you need to replicate or verify it yourself - as a result you can precisely measure the older, less accurate scales in perfect accuracy just fine.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 00:23:26 JST 翠星石

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     @RustyCrab Imperial is a UK thing, which they don't really use anymore and the US doesn't use it anymore either.
     
     The USA uses a customary unit system which is based off metric.
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 00:32:37 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @Suiseiseki go measure 1/299792458th of the duration of 9192631770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 00:45:39 JST 翠星石

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     @Inginsub Yes, I can go and acquire an atomic clock or make one with a microwave heater and a suitable radiation detector just fine.
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 00:52:14 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @Suiseiseki
     >The high frequency of caesium allows for more accurate measurements. Caesium reference tubes suitable for national standards currently last about seven years and cost about US$35,000.
     are you going to put your money where your mouth is?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 01:10:23 JST 翠星石

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     @Inginsub I'm sure you can get a much cheaper tube that's just as good, except those aren't certified.
     
     You can also buy the 7 year old tubes for a heavily discounted price and those should be good enough with some adjustment.
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 01:15:01 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @Suiseiseki no, they aren’t good enough after 7 years, and the uncertified ones either didn’t pass the certification or weren’t built to be precise enough in the first place.
     
     you have two options: buy a 35k tube and build an atomic clock, or admit that you’re wrong and shut up
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     🥺 (_@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 09:14:06 JST 🥺

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     @Inginsub @Suiseiseki
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 09:46:07 JST þernia

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     @Inginsub @Suiseiseki in their defense its a precision vs. reproducibility vs. accessibility thing. its tuff to get all 3 right
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 09:47:11 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @pernia @Suiseiseki sui's argument is that metric is free while imperial is "proprietary"
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 09:55:08 JST þernia

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     @Inginsub @Suiseiseki what. how does that analogy even fit
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