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   Peter N. M. Hansteen (pitrh@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 27-Oct-2024 01:46:06 JST Peter N. M. Hansteen

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   • LaF0rge
   • Adrian Vovk
   • CountZero

   @czero @AdrianVovk @LaF0rge While individual contributors might decide to contribute to a free software project "out of the goodness of their heart", no commercial entity, whatever their business actually does. (defense or other sector, no matter)

   Rather, they see the positive potential of utilizing the combined efforts of other developers as well as their own in maintaining and improving whatever it is they make their money from.

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     CountZero (czero@lor.sh)'s status on Sunday, 27-Oct-2024 01:46:13 JST CountZero

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     • LaF0rge
     • Adrian Vovk

     @AdrianVovk @LaF0rge

     >Russian defense contractors don't contribute to Linux out of the goodness of their hearts

     1. citation needed

     2. can we stop this "defense contractor" bs? Baikal produced some MIPS and ARM-based SoCs for internal market, including SOHO segment. Russian MoD bought some of these, just like any other customer, and that's about it. *Real* Russian defense contractors operate under very strict NDAs and they would never ever make their efforts public. Let alone public for American NGO aka Linux Foundation, they'd be prosecuted for that.

     3. this particular developer got his maintainer's status not for his Baikal upstreaming work but for volunteering work on projects unrelated to his employer and in his free time. This is pretty clearly described in his LKML post, which you apparently skipped (but decided to make judgements anyway)

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     Adrian Vovk (adrianvovk@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Oct-2024 01:46:14 JST Adrian Vovk

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     • LaF0rge

     @LaF0rge Companies pay their employees to contribute to FOSS if and only if it benefits the companies in some way. Russian defense contractors don't contribute to Linux out of the goodness of their hearts. Letting them keep contributing means they keep benefiting

     The people that work for these companies but contribute in their free time don't have my sympathy too. Their day job is still building the tools to kill innocent people, and if all that costs them is their hobby then they got off easy

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     LaF0rge (laf0rge@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 27-Oct-2024 01:46:15 JST LaF0rge

     my take on recent regrettable events in the #linux kernel community. https://laforge.gnumonks.org/blog/20241025-linux-maintainers-russian/