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✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 01:33:25 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧

greg k-h is a piece of shit, you should email him and tell him about it https://lore.kernel.org/all/2024101835-tiptop-blip-09ed@gregkh/
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  [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove some entries due to various compliance requirements. - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 01:33:25 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  do you want to end with linux-cn being a fork that lives entirely in its own ecosystem? because this is how you get linux-cn be a fork that lives entirely in its own ecosystem you are effectively excluded from
  morons
  
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 01:33:25 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  it looks like someone is DoSing lore right now. i don't know if that's the case but it's fitting if it is, lol
  edit: oh it's on /r/linux
  
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  Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: repeated this.
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 01:33:25 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  someone finally posted a statement referring to actual legal acts instead of vibes https://lore.kernel.org/all/7ee74c1b5b589619a13c6318c9fbd0d6ac7c334a.camel@HansenPartnership.com/
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:39:19 JST feld
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  @whitequark but why are people acting like this is a new thing? Laws are laws. This is not a new thing in the open source community. It was obvious that this was OFAC related
  
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:40:54 JST Sick Sun
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  @feld @whitequark because they didn't say why, they just made vague references and Linus acted like a dickhead about it.
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:42:42 JST feld
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  @sun @whitequark you're not always allowed to speak of it. Like when ITAR was in effect on certain products, @SlicerDicer could not even reveal the existence of certain things on his MK15 to anyone. Period. I don't even think he was even supposed to mention ITAR to anyone.
  
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  dram🎀 (dramforever@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:44:04 JST dram🎀
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  @whitequark oh my they're probably gonna have to kick out huawei
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:44:04 JST feld
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  @dramforever @whitequark I don't know why *any* Chinese company is allowed to have access to anything that has cryptography from the West. It's very confusing how this stuff is selectively enforced.
  
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:48:40 JST Sick Sun
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  @feld @SlicerDicer @whitequark then they should just shut up and take their abuse because nobody else is obligated to accept that explanation for an open source project.
  
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:49:02 JST Sick Sun
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  @feld @SlicerDicer @whitequark bad for them, no one else's problem.
  
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:50:34 JST Sick Sun
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  @feld @SlicerDicer @whitequark I am actually curious of they were really obligated not to talk about it because like, I have been denied access to a financial website because they told me I matched a name on the OFAC list. They didnt' even hide it from me that that was the reason they denied me.
  
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:54:22 JST Sick Sun
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  @SlicerDicer @feld @whitequark I had to take online classes related to this when I did my short stint in the defense industry, I'm familiar.
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 04:54:23 JST I am Water
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  @feld @sun @whitequark I can show it to American citizens but taking things out of the country or showing non citizens is a problem. It’s better to just not talk about it in the concept of loose lips sink ships.
  
  Even today they may not be itar but they are arms export control for sure.
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:12:02 JST feld
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  @whitequark @SlicerDicer @sun why? cryptography is a munition and is similarly export controlled. There's cryptography in the kernel, both IPSEC and KTLS now
  
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:12:03 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  @feld @SlicerDicer @sun your anecdote about ITAR is irrelevant
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:14:46 JST I am Water
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  @sun @feld @whitequark Just as example one of my former clients worked at Boeing and when unapproved people came in they covered things with tarps. So like what I’m gonna tarp my house?
  
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:14:46 JST Sick Sun
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  @SlicerDicer @feld @whitequark I had that happen when I worked at the missile company
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:14:47 JST I am Water
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  @sun @feld @whitequark Yeah it’s pain in ass, working doing it is far easier than actually owning it and the requirements. Some of my ITAR stuff can never be sold. It can only be returned to vendor. Each one has its own rules and it’s on me to keep that safe. It’s my problem if I mess up and it’s not in a controlled environment. It’s in my house.
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:16:01 JST I am Water
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  @sun @feld @whitequark Security blanket is a tarp.
  
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:16:01 JST Sick Sun
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  @SlicerDicer @feld @whitequark we actually had twirling police siren lights on the ceiling that lit up
  
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  受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:23:21 JST 受不了包
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  @sun@shitposter.world @SlicerDicer@friedcheese.us @feld@friedcheese.us @whitequark@mastodon.social afaik i can only let us citizens look through my pvs-14 :pensivebutt:
  
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:31:30 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  @feld @SlicerDicer @sun this hasn't mattered since 1995, but if it somehow started, the correct move here is to relocate the Linux Foundation from countries with such idiotic regulation to somewhere more reasonable, not to yield to it and then whine on the mailing list about how everyone around is a "russian troll"
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:31:30 JST feld
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  @whitequark @SlicerDicer @sun hasn't mattered since 1995? Then why do we still have to register our cryptography-containing software with the government in 2024?
  
  Why did FreeBSD have to expel Iranian committer Babak Farrokhi? Oh right, the export sanctions that "hasn't mattered since 1995".
  
  I don't recall when exactly he lost his access as my mail archives don't go back far enough, but we weren't able to welcome him back until 2015. I know for sure because I was the first person to welcome him back on the internal developer mailing list.
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:33:24 JST feld
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  @whitequark @SlicerDicer @sun You're in the UK and you follow almost identical rules as do all of our allies
  
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:33:25 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  @SlicerDicer @feld @sun I am not in the USA, thank gods, and if your government prevents you from contributing to open-source projects like Linux you should either emigrate or take up arms in rebellion or something
  
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:33:26 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  @SlicerDicer @feld @sun so? I don't give a shit about ITAR, never did, and never will
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:33:26 JST I am Water
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  @whitequark @feld @sun It give a shit about you. If you are handling such things and in the USA you don’t want to play prison.
  
  https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/south-florida-residents-sentenced-illegally-exporting-controlled-items-libya
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    South Florida Residents Sentenced for Illegally Exporting Controlled Items to Libya
    
    Two Florida residents were sentenced yesterday for conspiring to and illegally attempting to export controlled items to Libya.
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:33:27 JST I am Water
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  @whitequark @feld @sun Then what? That doesn’t mean it’s protected. The countries laws it’s used in are still there.
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:36:38 JST feld
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  @whitequark @SlicerDicer @sun FreeBSD Foundation lawyers told the project to remove his access or risk charges.
  
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:36:39 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  @feld @SlicerDicer @sun weren't able to, or didn't want to?
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:37:33 JST feld
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  Probably your OFSI which has enhanced partnership with US OFAC since 2022
  
  https://www.gtlaw.com/en/insights/2022/10/uk-us-announce-enhanced-partnership-on-economic-sanctions-implementation-enforcement
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  ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:37:34 JST ✧✦✶✷Catherine✷✶✦✧
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  @feld @SlicerDicer @sun cite any UK regulation to me that prevents me from accepting patches from someone on the OFAC sanctions list
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:43:13 JST feld
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  @SlicerDicer @whitequark I don't think this is directly relevant but yeah, they don't have anything like the 5th Amendment protections so they can force you to hand that over.
  
  Though this stupid country will come up with other ways to ruin your life and the NSA will violate your privacy without any recourse. Gotta love it. 3 letter agencies get to just shit all over our rights.
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:43:14 JST I am Water
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  >> cite any UK regulation to me that prevents me from accepting patches from someone on the OFAC sanctions list
  
  In the United Kingdom, the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act gives UK police the powers to force suspects to decrypt files or hand over passwords that protect encryption keys. Failure to comply is an offense in its own right, punishable on conviction by a two-year jail sentence or up to five years in cases involving national security.
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:46:49 JST feld
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  @SlicerDicer @whitequark what was that little floating piece of trash that the Pirate Bay was trying to make a sovereign country? lol
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:46:50 JST I am Water
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  @feld @whitequark I really don’t think there’s any country that this is really not an issue. Where’s one place that is free of this malarkey?
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:47:13 JST I am Water
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  @feld @whitequark Sealand wasn’t it?
  
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  @SlicerDicer @whitequark poor Sealand, ISO won't even give them a 2 or 3 letter code for ICANN to honor so they gotta use .org
  
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  I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 25-Oct-2024 05:57:19 JST I am Water
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  @feld @whitequark why don’t they register .bates guarantee they would make a fortune selling those tld
  
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