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   Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:29:47 JST Rasmus Fleischer

   "I wonder if I sometimes detect a note of puritanical moralism in the American #academisation of #rave? There seems to be a need to justify all this hedonism and excess pleasure as, in fact, an important technique of self-actualisation or community building or other meaning-making activity
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   That’s not to deny the possibility that raves can be zones of personal and political transformation, but I’m reminded of the wellness lingo that’s attached itself to the “psychedelic renaissance” in clinical and therapeutic settings.
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   Raves and trips exist in similar in-between zones, where two things can be true at once. Partying is political; partying changes nothing. Raving is reconstitutive; raving is self-destructive. Reconnect with your body; dissociate from your body."
   https://thequietus.com/opinion-and-essays/black-sky-thinking/clubbing-dancefloor-utopia-raving-academia/

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     Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:41:38 JST Rasmus Fleischer

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     • Magnus Ahltorp

     @ahltorp "Weird" can also mean very different things to different people and in different contexts.

     Anyway, this made me think about the "raving as folk art" idea:
     https://firstfloor.substack.com/p/raving-as-folk-art

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     Magnus Ahltorp (ahltorp@mastodon.nu)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:41:39 JST Magnus Ahltorp

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     @rasmusfleischer As someone who both enjoys rave and Swedish folk dancing (and also many other dances), I find the preoccupation with “new, weird and interesting” a little bit navel gazing. That is also needed, but can’t be the mainstream.

     Complaining that it’s “no longer such an inevitable rite of passage” doesn’t seem to mesh well with romanticising the underground.

     And gate-keeping, cataloguing and classifying DJs doesn’t sound like fun to me.