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   eisai (eisai@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:40 JST eisai
   Come to Gentoo. We have:
    - llvm with nearly all target architectures forced! (USE-flags, fuck yeah!)
    - unstable gimp-2.10.36-r2 and stable gimp-2.10.38
    - picture viewer that is written in C++ itself, but pulling zenity for no reason at all! (Said zenity then pulls appstream which in its turn pulls qt-tools, which in its turn… yeah…)
    - vivaldi, that requires a customly built copy of ffmpeg (despite that normal ffmpeg long has the “chromium” USE-flag to build libffmpeg.so specifically for c*romeshit browsers)
    - systemd udev, because eudev died suddenly!
    - systemd daemon managing your tmpfiles, because opentmpfiles… also died suddenly… (you can pray for OpenRC to stay alive!)
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     eisai (eisai@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:30 JST eisai

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     • menherahair
     • H. Faust
     @menherahair @hfaust > you edit it to be "bash, networkmanager, nmap", press button and get a brand new system with these
     Ah. When it went full chef and puppet, it was a clear sign, that it’s time to pull the dick out.
     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this.
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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:31 JST menherahair

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     • H. Faust
     @eisai @hfaust you're gonna need a real systems engineer and amazon backbone employee to explain the benefits of these. Google thought these desirable in android and chromeos so that's enough for plenty of people to turn their boxes into fat home routers
     >I’m not quite sure what this means.
     you put "bash, networkmanager" in a file, press button and get a system with that
     then you edit it to be "bash, networkmanager, nmap", press button and get a brand new system with these
     traditionally you'd just go "apt install nmap" and get a brief period where the system shifts but here you don't
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     eisai (eisai@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:32 JST eisai

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     • menherahair
     • H. Faust
     @menherahair @hfaust > yes then you compile, remount rw to install the binaries, and back to ro
     I fail to see the profit…
     > so immutable filesystems are when you don't do that so you get the benefits of never having live system in rw
     I’m not fond of living on a live cd, even with a backstore. Is it actually a retarded way to save SSD lifespan or “muh 10000 small servers on flash sticks in a data center” case?
     > and nix style package manager is when this /usr is setup from a config file instead of series of commands
     I’m not quite sure what this means.
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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:33 JST menherahair

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     • H. Faust
     @eisai @hfaust yes then you compile, remount rw to install the binaries, and back to ro
     so immutable filesystems are when you don't do that so you get the benefits of never having live system in rw
     and nix style package manager is when this /usr is setup from a config file instead of series of commands
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     eisai (eisai@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:35 JST eisai

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     • menherahair
     • H. Faust
     @menherahair @hfaust But I need to… I need to compile… stuff.
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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:36 JST menherahair

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     • H. Faust
     @eisai @hfaust never thought of mounting /usr ro?
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     eisai (eisai@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:37 JST eisai

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     • H. Faust
     @hfaust
     > immutable filesystems
     > nix-like package managers
     Eeeh? I’ve been out in video games for too long.
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     H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:38 JST H. Faust

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     @eisai I think the new hot things are immutable filesystems and nix-like package managers, Gentoo really got stuck
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     H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:39 JST H. Faust

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     @eisai Gentoo has fallen
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     eisai (eisai@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:07:39 JST eisai

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     • H. Faust
     @hfaust Owari da…
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     • menherahair
     • H. Faust
     @eisai @menherahair @hfaust >nix os users trying to explain how removing control from your own system is not like being a cuck...
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:12:58 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     • menherahair
     • H. Faust
     • Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
     @mischievoustomato @eisai @menherahair @hfaust :alex_lol:
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     Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 02:13:00 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!

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     • menherahair
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     • H. Faust

     @dcc @hfaust @menherahair @eisai you do have control in nix, often in an easier nicer way, but only if the thing you try to use has been maintained and set up properly, otherwise... nope.