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   SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 14-Oct-2024 23:06:16 JST SuperDicq

   • The Original Stripey Goodness
   • Dave Wilburn :donor:
   • The Stallman report

   @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @stripey@meow.social @report_press@mastodon.social No, that's not what I'm saying at all.
   
   A lot of people (including you apparently) are literally incapable of having a civil political discussion around the laws that govern sex without immediately painting the other side of the argument as disgusting pedophiles or something. There is a huge taboo around even discussing these things!
   
   Like for example what should be proper age of consent? Should it be 16, 17, 18, or maybe even 21? If your answer differs only slightly from the norm in your region of the world you will be called a pedophile guaranteed.
   
   Same when it comes to the banning of pornography that includes animals for example. We should be able to have a civil discussion if the criminalization of possession of these types of pornography can be considered censorship while keeping subjective morals of doing so in the first place about this out of the discussion.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:27:43 JST SuperDicq

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     • The Original Stripey Goodness
     • Dave Wilburn :donor:
     • Dushman
     • The Stallman report

     @dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @stripey@meow.social @report_press@mastodon.social Yes, he retracted that statement a long time ago at this point, so I don't think it is a valid reason to remove him from the FSF.
     
     I am indeed also very certain that he has not and does not want to abuse children.

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     Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:27:45 JST Dushman

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     • The Original Stripey Goodness
     • Dave Wilburn :donor:
     • The Stallman report

     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @stripey@meow.social @report_press@mastodon.social
     I mean it was worse than that. rms literally said "voluntary" pedophilia is fine, it wasn't even about aoc. Afaik he retracted that statement but still very weird to say something like that in the first place. Pretty sure he never did anything of that nature to anyone tho.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:40:03 JST SuperDicq

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     • mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
     • Dushman
     • The Stallman report

     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world @dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @report_press@mastodon.social I agree. Even something as critical to us our today culture such as Creative Commons and Wikipedia and everything similar would not exists if the GNU project hadn't popularized the concept of Copyleft.

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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:40:04 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     • Dushman
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     @dushman @SuperDicq @DaveMWilburn @report_press
     >that's giving them too much credit.
     The GPL influenced so many things, you can historically look at all public stuff we have today and most of them always have "I was inspired by the GPL/RMS"
     Wikipedia, redit (the old), the www, EFF etc... all of that started because of that single domino effect.
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     Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:40:05 JST Dushman

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     • mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
     • The Stallman report

     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @report_press@mastodon.social Even the internet as a whole wouldn't be thereNah that's giving them too much credit. Not to say they haven't made some great contributions but yk.

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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:40:06 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     • Dushman
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     @dushman @SuperDicq @DaveMWilburn @report_press
     >I'm not even a big fan of GNU/FSF.
     You wouldn't even be there if it weren't for those projects. Even the internet as a whole wouldn't be there. We'd probably be stuck in AOLs sandbox ecosystem.
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     Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:40:08 JST Dushman

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     • The Original Stripey Goodness
     • Dave Wilburn :donor:
     • The Stallman report

     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @stripey@meow.social @report_press@mastodon.social
     Boils down to him saying weird shit on those subjects over the years. Wouldn't say he's a horrible person though. I'm not even a big fan of GNU/FSF.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:50:24 JST SuperDicq

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     • Ever Beedle
     • mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
     • Dushman
     • The Stallman report

     @dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world @dave@gleasonator.com @report_press@mastodon.social The idea of the 4-clause BSD license was never anything similar to the concept of free software, they just did it for practicality and research reasons at the time.

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     Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:50:26 JST Dushman

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     • Ever Beedle
     • mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
     • The Stallman report

     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @dave@gleasonator.com @report_press@mastodon.social
     Both are from 89 iirc

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     Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 03:50:28 JST Dushman

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     • Ever Beedle
     • mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
     • The Stallman report

     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @dave@gleasonator.com @report_press@mastodon.social
     I mean the BSD licenses were made basically at the same time. They weren't the only ones with that kinda idea.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 17:16:44 JST SuperDicq

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     • The Original Stripey Goodness
     • Dave Wilburn :donor:
     • Dushman
     • onlyplants
     • The Stallman report

     @teratology@hollow.raccoon.quest @dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @stripey@meow.social @report_press@mastodon.social As a free software activist I really notice how the attacks on Stallman are fracturing our community.
     
     Some people are now fully discrediting the FSF or avoiding to use the GPL or GNU software at all simply because of RMS said something questionable once. This hurts the free software movement greatly.
     
     If this was some random guy I wouldn't care or defend it, but as someone who is really closely involved with the free software movement my entire life and knowing Stallman personally this stuff really bothers me because I know that's all fabricated drama and insincererity.

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     onlyplants (teratology@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 17:16:45 JST onlyplants

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     • Dave Wilburn :donor:
     • Dushman
     • The Stallman report

     @dushman @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @stripey@meow.social @report_press@mastodon.social I don't understand why so many people defend him hard, I don't think people would do mental gymnastics to defend the things he said/says if he wasn't RMS.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 17:40:06 JST SuperDicq

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     • meso [netzsphaere era]

     @meso@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe Yeah that's what also concerns me the most. Stallman hasn't harmed anyone, but people like to pretend he's P Diddy.

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     meso [netzsphaere era] (meso@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 17:40:07 JST meso [netzsphaere era]

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     @teratology @SuperDicq if it came from a genuine concern or care, I'd agree, but it's just used to attack him for reasons other than how bad the things he said are
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     cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 17:40:08 JST cipote :bishrexual:

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     @SuperDicq I don't agree with that and I've never been a fan of people inserting politics into software, I find it all performative along with the witch-hunt against him. I do think that he's said weird ass things and I think that people are too willing to coddle grown ass autistic men over standing up against rape culture and violence against women.

     I still appreciate his contributions and use a lot of software he's written, but it doesn't mean I can't be disappointed as a woman because of the things he's said. I will admit the statements he made about Epstien's victims isn't unique and is a common viewpoint in the states. We literally had a president saying "grab em' by the pussy". Not to mention the article about Elon's inappropriate behavior with employees but that doesn't get as much attention as things RMS has written about.

     I haven't contributed to free software, but I hope to contribute someday and maybe publish my own projects. I think that any focus on the free software community as being a hostile environment towards women is extremely insincere considering my experiences in corporate environments and academia. It's not different than performative people on mastodon writing off Pleroma. I wish that the Void devs didn't have public meltdowns like the guy from Graphene, but I'll still use their software. Pretty sure Debian had some random racist shit in the codebase for a while too. Nobody is writing off Debian and all it's derivative distributions.

     I stopped using GitHub for a myriad of reasons, including Microsoft's involvement with ICE as a proud central american woman and daughter of immigrants. How many projects by so-called activists are currently on GitHub? It's all performative. I wish these people would shut up and actually listen to what women are actually saying. I know few women who are in tech, let alone devs who give a fuck about RMS. I'm just being honest.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 21:44:17 JST SuperDicq

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     • The Original Stripey Goodness
     • Dave Wilburn :donor:
     • Dushman
     • onlyplants
     • The Stallman report

     @dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest @teratology@hollow.raccoon.quest @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @stripey@meow.social @report_press@mastodon.social That's fine. I don't necessarily agree with most of Stallman's political notes, especially on topics related to sex either.
     
     I just can't stand the fact that we're getting another wave of polarization and hate for something that I thought we had solved back in 2021.
     
     I think real diversity is working with people despite their differences, and Stallman and the FSF don't deserve to be boycotted.
     
     We all have the mostly the similar goals in the end (even if you prefer BSD permissive licenses or call it "open source"), global software freedom. :gnujihad:

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     Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 21:44:19 JST Dushman

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     • Dave Wilburn :donor:
     • onlyplants
     • The Stallman report

     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @teratology@hollow.raccoon.quest @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @stripey@meow.social @report_press@mastodon.social
     I don't hate him but don't exactly like him either personally.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 22:08:37 JST SuperDicq

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     @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe The report really likes to keep mentioning that "Women represent just 3% of the free software community,2 compared to 23% of industry programmers generally." but then claims that this is just because of "Stallman's decades-long campaign to normalize sexual violence".
     
     How does anyone take this seriously?

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 22:09:23 JST 翠星石

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     • mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
     • Dushman
     @dushman @mangeurdenuage GNU greatly assisted in getting the internet to scale.
     
     Can you imagine how terrible the internet would be if routers ran windows or proprietary Unix's or (proprietary) BSD's instead of GNU/Linux?
     
     GNU a while ago also supplied a free BGP implementation - GNU Zebra.
     
     You wouldn't be on the fediverse right now if it wasn't for GNU social.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 22:12:55 JST SuperDicq

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     @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe What is also notable to me is that the statement "Women represent just 3% of the free software community" is sourced from a Github "Open Source" Survey.
     
     If there's anything that does NOT represent the free software movement it would be Microsoft's proprietary Github platform and anyone says "Open Source".
     
     I know it is anecdotal, but by looking at actual relevant GNU projects and FSF organized events that I have been present at I personally think that in the actual free software movement the amount of women is much higher than 3%.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 22:15:28 JST SuperDicq

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     @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe So basically you are blaming Stallman for sexist culture on Github, a platform that Stallman says people should avoid using...
     
     The irony

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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 22:24:08 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @teratology @SuperDicq
     > We literally had a president saying "grab em' by the pussy". Not to mention the article about Elon's inappropriate behavior with employees but that doesn't get as much attention as things RMS has written about.
     And lets not forget this.
     Coincidentally the revelation about that happened the same week of the slander/drama.
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