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   raganwald 🍓 (raganwald@social.bau-ha.us)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 02:03:36 JST raganwald 🍓

   • Charlie Stross

   "The search for AI is the search for a better slave."
   —@cstross

   Tech bros watch Blade Runner, and immediately set about trying to become the next Dr. Eldon Tyrell.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 02:24:35 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
     • Charlie Stross

     @raganwald @rysiek @cstross
     Guinan said it. This scene still gives me chills every time:

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T9TUeapBSQ

     What writers. What a pair of actors.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 04:38:28 JST Paul Cantrell

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     To be clear, because it’s a point of potential confusion:

     The relevance here is not that LLMs are Mr. Data. They are not.

     The relevance is that there’s this culty SV cohort that’s not actually trying to find realistic and worthy applications for ML, but rather is off on this bender of “AGI! AI will completely change all jobs! We must burn the planet to let the machines will solve climate change!! Also, LLMs will become Skynet!!” …and there’s a slaver mindset lurking beneath the surface there.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 04:44:50 JST Paul Cantrell

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     By “slaver mindset,” I mean the idea that the potential resulting wealth growth makes it morally justifiable (or even necessary) for some people to be disposable people — which as it happens is •exactly• the argument that so-called “effective altruism” makes.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 04:47:04 JST Paul Cantrell

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     Stuff like, say, Eric Schmidt saying we should give up on solving climate change in favor of building more AI data centers is not, not, not the same thing as chattel slavery. Nope. But it is rooted in the same moral emptiness, the same belief that some people should be disposable so that others may prosper. The former will slip into the latter with alarming speed if given the chance, I promise you.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 04:51:20 JST Paul Cantrell

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     If this seems overwrought, if you’re taking the prospect of AGI seriously and think I’m exaggerating, ask the AI executives this question:

     When your AGI replaces human intelligence, are you willing to pay it wages?

     If not, then either (1) the “AGI” part is a hoax or (2) you’re advocating slavery.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 04:51:44 JST Paul Cantrell

     • Camilo

     @cam
     It most certainly is not. And people are always trying to buy new clothes for it.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 10:39:50 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Dave Spector

     @Dhmspector
     That quote came up earlier too: https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/113295613785073188

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     Dave Spector (dhmspector@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2024 10:39:51 JST Dave Spector

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     • Paul Cantrell

     @inthehands

     “The search for AI is the search for a better slave.” — @cstross (Charlie Stross, author)