Aral Balkan
Is this the same Meta that Mastodon partnered with to create the Social Web Foundation?
How odd, I thought they were the good guys…
https://socialwebfoundation.org/mission/
#meta #mastodon #SocialWebFoundation https://universeodon.com/@TomWellborn/113279390984674388
Aral Balkan
@Tooden Yep, the assholes formerly known as Facebook.
Hugs4friends ♾🇺🇦 🇵🇸😷
@aral Meta is Zuck, isn't it?
Aral Balkan
@renchap @goetz So you are a partner of Social Web Foundation and Meta is a partner of Social Web Foundation but you have not partnered with Meta. You’re just both listed under the partners section but aren’t partners. Am I getting that right?
Renaud Chaput
@goetz @aral @TomWellborn Yes, we are a partner / member / supporter / … of the SocialWebFoundation, as I said above, because we think such an organisation is needed for the Fediverse to grow. We are not involved in the Foundation creation, or it's management, neither we have partnered with Meta about anything.
goetz 🚲
@renchap
Mastodon gGmbH is listed as a partner of the #SocialWebFoundation!
The mission of SWF does not match, if not contradicts the purpose and object of the gGmbH.
In my point of view this is the beginning of "embrace, extend and extinguish" of #activitypub like we saw with #xmpp
Renaud Chaput
@aral @TomWellborn Mastodon did not partner with anyone. We support the SWF because we feel this is really needed for the Fediverse to move forward. Meta might think the same, but there is no such partnership (or any other kind of relationship)
Aral Balkan
@renchap @goetz Do you guys seriously not get why Meta wants to be on there and what it means for Meta to be on there? You’re whitewashing them. You’re telling people “they can’t be that bad… Mastodon would never partner with them if they were that bad.” I mean, do you really not see this?
Renaud Chaput
@aral @goetz Mastodon supports the SWF foundation. They call us partners because of this support at launch I guess. I have no idea what relationship they have with Meta. And there is no relationship between Mastodon and Meta.
Similarly, Meta is a W3C member, Mastodon participates to some W3C meetings about ActivityPub.
Gabe Kangas
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