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   Luke T. Shumaker (lukeshu@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Oct-2024 08:22:23 JST Luke T. Shumaker

   The #FreeSoftware movement is fundamentally a political movement advocating for folks' freedoms.

   To say that politics have no place in the Free Software movement is to say that the Free Software movement shouldn't exist.

   But it's an attractive line to those looking to exploit the #FOSS software that the movement produces while subverting the movement itself.

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     NiceMicro (nicemicro@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 02:59:33 JST NiceMicro

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     @lukeshu While there are for sure bad faith actors in this space, I think when people complain about "politics in free software", they actually mean "politics other than the politics about free software".

     I believe that it is possible to have a wide range of political persuasions that lets you derive the computing freedoms. Or, you can be just simply selfish and want to get these freedoms for yourself.

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     NiceMicro (nicemicro@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 02:59:41 JST NiceMicro

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     @lukeshu so I believe that if we attach other political ideals to our free software advocacy, that will cause unnecessary division in the community. Which is a problem, if you want to achieve anything against the huge corporate interests that hate the computing freedom of their users.

     I know I'm a bit of a hypocrite here, too, because I sometimes attach my urbanism advocacy to my free software advocacy, but I'm just a small guy, not running a big project or member of a foundation.

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     NiceMicro (nicemicro@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 03:00:14 JST NiceMicro

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     • Danielle Foré

     @danirabbit @lukeshu I don't know what other people think, what annoys me occasionally, is that how people bring in their other political issues (with whatever genuine positive intentions they have) is very much USA-centric, sometimes specifically USA-cultural-hegemonist.

     As a non-US citizen who never went there, it is a bit offensive when people expect that I should have the same political priorities as Americans.

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     Danielle Foré (danirabbit@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 03:00:15 JST Danielle Foré

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     • NiceMicro

     @nicemicro it’s extremely necessary division. When these folks complain about “politics” what they always mean is that they don’t want marginalized people to participate openly and safely. We can’t build healthy diverse communities and include people who are against equality and human rights. Supremacists are of no value

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     NiceMicro (nicemicro@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 03:00:24 JST NiceMicro

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     • Danielle Foré

     @danirabbit @lukeshu case in point: I care about software / computing / user freedom, and personal freedom in general, and I join Free Software advocacy to... advocate for free software, and I don't need people from the first world to descend from the heavens and tell me what other issues should I care about and in what priority.