Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   Brendan Jones (brendanjones@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 23:29:41 JST Brendan Jones

   The rise of Mastodon has made me so much more aware of government services requiring us to use private companies’ systems to communicate with them and access services.

   Sitting on a Dutch train just now I was shown on a screen “feeling unsafe in the train? Contact us via WhatsApp”.

   What if I don’t use WhatsApp? (I do, but I wish I didn’t have to) I’m forced to share my data with Meta to use it.

   Public systems should not require use of private services.

   #NS #Netherlands #FOSS #privacy

   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: and Fish of Rage like this.
   • Embed this notice
     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 23:29:40 JST lainy

     in reply to
     @Brendanjones hat if don't use Mastodon?
     feld likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Philip Weiss (Phil in SF) (kingrat@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 00:17:53 JST Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

     in reply to

     @Brendanjones i have bad news for you about SMS

   • Embed this notice
     Brendan Jones (brendanjones@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 00:17:54 JST Brendan Jones

     in reply to

     To be fair, if you go to their website it does say that you can also use SMS, but there’s no mention of that on the message that was displayed on the train.

     https://www.ns.nl/reisinformatie/voorzieningen/veiligheid-in-de-trein-en-op-het-station.html

   • Embed this notice
     Philip Weiss (Phil in SF) (kingrat@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:10:43 JST Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

     in reply to

     • iantriggs

     @iantriggs congratulations on living in a place where the government runs your telecom

   • Embed this notice
     iantriggs (iantriggs@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:10:44 JST iantriggs

     in reply to

     • Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

     @kingrat congrats on missing the point 🤦♂️

   • Embed this notice
     Philip Weiss (Phil in SF) (kingrat@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 12:22:49 JST Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

     in reply to

     • Sjoerd Klarenbeek

     @sjoerdklarenbeek Allow whatever methods that allow the most people to contact them. Preferably a few. If WhatsApp + SMS get to 95% of the target population, I don't see why not. I'd personally prefer Signal for this sort of thing, but there's like 0.23% of people using it, so it seems kind of dumb to devote a lot of resources for it.

   • Embed this notice
     Sjoerd Klarenbeek (sjoerdklarenbeek@mastodon.nl)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 12:22:50 JST Sjoerd Klarenbeek

     in reply to

     • Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

     @kingrat @Brendanjones how would you like it to be? I mean what should NS do?

   • Embed this notice
     Philip Weiss (Phil in SF) (kingrat@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 12:24:18 JST Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

     in reply to

     • iantriggs
     • wanderingmagus

     @wanderingmagus @iantriggs

     Allow whatever methods that allow the most people to contact them. Preferably a few. If WhatsApp + SMS get to 95% of the target population, I don't see why not. I'd personally prefer Signal for this sort of thing, but there's like 0.23% of people using it, so it seems kind of dumb to devote a lot of resources for Phil's Ideologically Blessed Methods.

   • Embed this notice
     wanderingmagus (wanderingmagus@ioc.exchange)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 12:24:19 JST wanderingmagus

     in reply to

     • Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)
     • iantriggs

     @kingrat @iantriggs and you don't? What's *your* solution? And don't say "revolution".

   • Embed this notice
     Philip Weiss (Phil in SF) (kingrat@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 23:29:58 JST Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

     in reply to

     • Werawelt

     @werawelt I have bad news for you about telephones if you are trying to avoid giving your information to corporations.

   • Embed this notice
     Werawelt (werawelt@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 23:29:59 JST Werawelt

     in reply to

     • Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)
     • Sjoerd Klarenbeek

     @sjoerdklarenbeek
     Very easy: make the homepage, on which is a ticker with important news for the clients.
     Or have the possibility for a telephone-call for to speak with a support.
     This to have for the clients would be enough and very easy for all, - include very old people and people whose are blind or cannot use a smartphone for text-input.

     @kingrat @Brendanjones