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   r (r@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 16:01:28 JST r
   ご注文はうさぎです！
   https://irasuto.freesoftwareextremist.com/5u7YFmqZ.html
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 16:03:03 JST 翠星石

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     @r Impressive, very nice.
     
     Why CC0 though? Why not GPLv3-or-later?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 16:23:09 JST 翠星石

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     @get Please do not leave it ambiguous between -or-later or -only.
     
     `All other non-permissive additional terms are considered "further restrictions" within the meaning of section 10. If the Program as you received it, or any part of it, contains a notice stating that it is governed by this License along with a term that is a further restriction, you may remove that term.`
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     get (get@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 16:23:10 JST get

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     @Suiseiseki @r Why not GPLv3-PlusNigger
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 18:52:46 JST 翠星石

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     @r Even drawings deserve full freedom?
     
     Why not CC BY-SA 4.0?
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     r (r@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 18:52:47 JST r

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     @Suiseiseki Because it's a drawing.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 19:10:47 JST 翠星石

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     @r Sure, but why give people the power to take your creativity and expression and ruin it by making it proprietary and denying others the ability to continue the expression?
     
     Unfortunately, some form of credit is required for people to know that an artwork isn't proprietary - as an artwork without a license or a pd dedication attached is indistinguishable from an artwork under no license.
     
     If it wasn't for governments, you could freely publish art and bad things wouldn't happen, but of course not.
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     r (r@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 19:10:48 JST r

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     @Suiseiseki It's a personal preference to be honest. Art is more about creativity and expression rather than being information. I don't care if someone modifies my drawing and doesn't make it available under a free license. I don't care about the credit part either or else I'd have added some kind of signature to the drawing itself.
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     @Shark >you don't own the characters
     Please do not bootlick the business that holds the copyright on the character design by calling them "owners".
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     AAAAAA (shark@miniwa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 19:12:25 JST AAAAAA

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     cute :azuki2:
     I don't think you can CC0 fan art though …
     At least mention somewhere you don't own the characters or something.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 19:18:31 JST 翠星石

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     @r Parodies do not require copyright permission as long as you don't do anything remotely to do with profit - too bad some copyright holder sometimes has the power to screw you over.
     
     Rather than a license, for parodies all you can really do is write a disclaimer pointing out that the artwork is not profit related and that others may share it on and continue the parody.
     
     
     You can license your "original" artworks just fine mind you - I like the GNU so much; https://irasuto.freesoftwareextremist.com/8e585e23.html the possibility of a proprietary version pains me to no end.
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     r (r@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 19:18:32 JST r

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     @Shark
     >I don't think you can CC0 fan art though …
     It's a gray area, it's most certainly illegal regardless of what license I use my derived work.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 20:12:22 JST 翠星石

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     @r Fair use is something else entirely that is quite limited and generally only allows for effectively unmodified reproduction and unfortunately fair use doesn't even exist in many countries.
     
     My GNU/Bro says he wants to add it as an option to a free nyancat program, although it first needs to be adjusted so right-facing rainbows works (he wants to remove the libbsd dependency too); https://git.middlendian.com/nyancat.git/
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     r (r@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 20:12:23 JST r

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     @Suiseiseki Yeah, fair use is not so well defined.
     >the possibility of a proprietary version pains me to no end.
     Don't worry, if that happens, I'll have another reason to make an even better version of free GNU.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 20:30:26 JST 翠星石

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     @Shark It's not hard to not believe in something that doesn't exist; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html
     
     You drew it - from a legal standpoint - it being a derivative work of a previous character is the issue.
     
     Why not ask moon for permission to distribute non-proprietary derivative works of his works of such character? - he'll probably say yes and you'll be able to license it under a free license or release it to the public domain.
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     AAAAAA (shark@miniwa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 20:30:28 JST AAAAAA

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     @Suiseiseki I don't believe in IP altogether, but if you look at my drawings, all my drawings except one are licensed under CC0. That one is Pleroma-tan's drawing. If I didn't mention it not being mine (from a legal standpoint), then moon could theoretically cause, well, slight inconveniences in my life.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 20:58:37 JST 翠星石

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     • meso [netzsphaere era]
     @meso GPLv3-or-later is a perfectly valid license for art provided there is a source form.
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     meso [netzsphaere era] (meso@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 20:58:39 JST meso [netzsphaere era]

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     @Suiseiseki @r art doesnt get licensed through GPL nigga
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 20:59:39 JST 翠星石

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     • meso [netzsphaere era]
     @meso The copyright holder of the pleroma-tan character is whoever drew the character first.
     
     https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#CopyrightOwner
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     meso [netzsphaere era] (meso@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 20:59:40 JST meso [netzsphaere era]

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     • AAAAAA
     @Shark @Suiseiseki no one owns pleroma tan I think
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 23:32:40 JST 翠星石

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     @Shark You're confusing freedom with power; https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/freedom-vs-power.en.html
     
     CC BY-SA 4.0 gives you the freedom to distribute, modify and sell the copies of the work as you wish - it just doesn't give you the power to restrict it.
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     AAAAAA (shark@miniwa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 23:32:42 JST AAAAAA

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     @Suiseiseki It is licensed under CC-BY-SA-4.0 which is also okay in my book, I just prefer to give other people absolute freedom. But it also means I can't license it however I want to.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 23:49:44 JST 翠星石

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     @Shark I have never referred to anything such corporate propaganda term - I always refer to the correct law - whether that's copyright law, patent law, trademark law or trade secret laws etc.
     
     Copyright is not an optional thing - the government puts it automatically on every single creative work you publish and there currently is no globally valid way to opt out that doesn't has numerous issues.
     
     There is CC0, but it repeats corporate propaganda terms and is not suitable for all works, as it expressively refuses to grant any patent license (so you cannot use CC0 software and be confident that someone isn't going to attack you with a patent).
     
     The best attempt I've seen so far is this dedication, which isn't done yet; https://wpdd.info/
     
     
     But even if you can find a way to validly surrender your copyright, the problem is that businesses and people then have the power to restrict your works with copyright and can and will do so.
     
     As a result, the only logical course of action is to select a free license that allows for all legitimate cases of distribution, modifications and sale of copies, while not granting the power to restrict your works.
     
     If businesses and people were to no longer so relentlessly make free things proprietary and gravitated towards respecting people's freedom instead, there would be no problem with dedicating everything to the public domain under a released version of the WPDD.
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     AAAAAA (shark@miniwa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Oct-2024 23:49:46 JST AAAAAA

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     @Suiseiseki But as an IP abolitionist, using IP itself kinda feels hypocritical to me.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 00:06:22 JST 翠星石

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     @Shark There's unfortunately still problems then, as in most countries, a work without a license is proprietary and those in the USA are going to assume that a work is proprietary unless it has a license on it - which means all you can do is note that the work was published in Iran and therefore has no US copyright.
     
     Although, it could be argued that a work "published" on a fediverse instance hosted in the USA, or in any of the countries it has legislatively colonized could fall under US copyright.
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     AAAAAA (shark@miniwa.moe)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 00:06:23 JST AAAAAA

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     @Suiseiseki You are right. I can't actually make the decision to change my licenses for my future works now though, I'm gonna think about it a little more.
     
     At least my stuff isn't copyrighted in the US.
     > According to Circular 38a of the U.S. Copyright Office, Iran has no official copyright relations whatsoever with the United States. Published works originating in Iran thus are not copyrighted in the United States, regardless of the local copyright laws of these countries.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Oct-2024 21:46:39 JST 翠星石

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     @get He noted that such requirement wouldn't make a license nonfree, not that he supported such practice.
     
     Adding any word to a GPLv3 license file is not allowed and would constitute copyright infringement;
     "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed."
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     get (get@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Oct-2024 21:46:40 JST get

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     @Suiseiseki I actually talked to rms about this on email and he supported the license, i was surprised. He said the license was non-free at first but then when I sent him the license as text he supported it (I dont use protonmail anymore it sucks, this is from two years ago). WIsh I could've screenshotted this nicer but PM doesnt let you use real email clients 💀