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   georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 05-Oct-2024 09:36:58 JST georgia

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   @unmind how do you feel about dzogchen? I think its really cool
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 05-Oct-2024 09:42:31 JST georgia

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     @unmind yeah the closed sourcedness is my big complaint with Tibetan Buddhism. Everything is "you need to have visited this fire puja and gotten approval from this descendent of Guru Rinpoche". My other complaint is the practice of self immolation which goes against Guatamas middle way.
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     Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴ (unmind@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Saturday, 05-Oct-2024 09:42:32 JST Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴

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     @georgia i honestly know very very little about tibetan buddhism but i've been interested in pursuing it. the only issue is that most of the resources for it are on zoom/it's all very lineage-based so it's hard to get into
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     Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴ (unmind@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Saturday, 05-Oct-2024 10:06:54 JST Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴

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     @Alex @georgia idk closed practices make sense to me as someone who's suffered a lot on account of too much access to random esoteric bullshit without any solid foundation. it's a fine line though before it devolves into useless elitism and scam bullshit
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     :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 05-Oct-2024 10:06:55 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     closed sourceness in religion is always a plague that imo is 100% an indicator of it being more about scamming you out of material wealth rather than being about actual spiritual enlightenment. If they put so much value into such worldly things then they clearly have not truly ascended beyond it.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 05-Oct-2024 10:09:20 JST georgia

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     @unmind @Alex yeah ive found its mostly the advanced stuff which is very closely guarded, like not white or green Tara but chittamani Tara. I also suffered in the past due to misunderstanding occultism and becoming too absorbed in it. :/
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 05-Oct-2024 10:11:58 JST georgia

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     @unmind @Alex it makes sense that Tibetans would want that out of fear of chinese Buddhists supplanting their unique tradition with all the ethnic flooding thats gone on in Tibet and with China trying to teach Tibetans only with mandarin in school and such.
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     Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴ (unmind@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Saturday, 05-Oct-2024 10:11:59 JST Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴

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     @Alex @georgia on the other hand that suffering is what brought me to an interest in the fundamentals, so again idk. there's other reasons to have closed practices too like preservation of culture/not watering down the essence of a practice with syncretism etc.