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What's funny is that you can both see this as a reason Hitler is good and bad.
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@sickburnbro Hitler was a sensitive young man like me.
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@yockeypuck "No wonder he couldn't win a war, all he wanted to do was sit in cafes!"
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@sickburnbro an austrian once told me that being lazy is part of austrian culture. Guess he was right
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@teto yes, the germany to italy cultural gradations are fascinating.
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@nike It's literally the case. As an englishman I can tell you there is a part of your brain that tells you "bruh, you are not getting enough shit done"
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Germans can't help their exasperation seeing a successful man not work his finger to the bone. Alas Mussolini's men knew all they had to do was join him for a coffee and talk business to make his cafe trips productive. If only Hitler's men knew the same!
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The Anglo-American invention of the Work-Lunch solves this
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@nike also the golf game where you are talking business. Sadly when the 4oz martini died, it was the end of the classic work lunch.
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@sickburnbro JUST LET THE FUHRER TAKE HIS PORCHSITTING TIME :pensive_cowboy:
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@Bunsen @nike there is. a vision of the future is first needed. Right now most people just say "this sucks!"
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@sickburnbro @nike There has to be a way to bring it back.
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@sickburnbro @nike True. People need to focus on what can be done to make the world a better place.
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@enlightenedgoth @teto @nike all germans have been inflicted with a huge psychic burden in that they must repudiate a huge portion of their past; something that has not been required of any other people.
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@teto @nike @sickburnbro nothing to do with envy, its just a "Tugend" (virtue) to be a "Macher" (doer / busybody ), compared to being a "Nichtsnutz" (good-for-nothing), we used to value mastery, excellence and accomplishment in Germany. People don't hate accomplished I.e. smart people, they are respected. Reaching your full potential was very important for a german.
Prots just excel in having full control over your worldly desires / being very strict, because acutally protestantism lifestyle is hard af, since you are forced to follow a "bibletreu" lifestyle, meaning you have to follow all the fucking bible laws, know and study them of course yourself and not just show up to mass once a week.
Even tho in south-west germany catholics (more the elite/academic types) can be just as strict, compared to prots. They even say "we are not catholics" there, meaning "we are not that strict".
So... I wouldn't even say its a religion thing, just german love for perfection.
A swabian e.g. someone like Ernst Jünger isn't really that different compared to a prussian by mentality.
Prussians just play the Scapegoat now, which modern germans use as a sacrifice so they can whitewash themselves from the german past.
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@nike @sickburnbro what you call Germans was in fact Prussians or as I like to call them German+Prussians